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Old 1st June 2020, 15.04:38   #10-0 (permalink)
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We have a manager, now he will have a chance to get his own players and build his own team so give him a chance to see what he can achieve. If we have any true Wrexham supporters left on this forum get behind your team.
Hahahaha no. The board knew full well massive sections of the fanbase wouldnt support him. He's come in and done poorly leading to even more not backing him.

The bloke is a poison at the club. The cost of retaining him is huge in terms of lost support.

If you want to keep him at the cost of dire football, massively reduced budget and no atmosphere that's up to you.

He's previously failed as a manager with everything possible done to support him. He won't come good with a massively reduced budget and the club divided
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Old 1st June 2020, 15.33:28   #12-0 (permalink)
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We have a manager, now he will have a chance to get his own players and build his own team so give him a chance to see what he can achieve. If we have any true Wrexham supporters left on this forum get behind your team.
Hopefully you have expressed yourself poorly. I think there are vey few on RP not "true" supporters and most of us try to get behind the team on the pitch but it is difficult at times these days to lift the spirits.

There are many shades of opinion on RP and that is not a bad thing. I do not believe the posters that always seem to have a different opinion to me whenever I post are not true supporters. Those few that sometimes agree with me are true supporters as well.

Presumably you were being reasonable and trying to get people together but using the term "true" posters was unfortunate.

The team that is losing support by the minute is not the one on the field.

Regarding the manager, he has the job so to an extent his future is in his own hands, which is more than a lot of fellow supporters can say these days.

My opinion is he is not a suitable manager for a club like ours. He ticks few boxes other than he was fairly decent player for us in non-league.

In particular, he lacks presence and his negative fearful style of play reflects that. He appears to have no tactical nous, He carries baggage because some fans can't ever forgive him for walking out as he did.

I am happy for him to prove me wrong and if there is no change to the off the field team he will have the chance you want him to have.

My concern is more about his bosses. They have more than one chance and
plenty of the continuity JW calls for. I doubt many fans are going cut them any slack but maybe they will DK once the season starts.
Old 1st June 2020, 15.55:25   #13-0 (permalink)
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Hopefully you have expressed yourself poorly. I think there are vey few on RP not "true" supporters and most of us try to get behind the team on the pitch but it is difficult at times these days to lift the spirits.

There are many shades of opinion on RP and that is not a bad thing. I do not believe the posters that always seem to have a different opinion to me whenever I post are not true supporters. Those few that sometimes agree with me are true supporters as well.

Presumably you were being reasonable and trying to get people together but using the term "true" posters was unfortunate.

The team that is losing support by the minute is not the one on the field.

Regarding the manager, he has the job so to an extent his future is in his own hands, which is more than a lot of fellow supporters can say these days.

My opinion is he is not a suitable manager for a club like ours. He ticks few boxes other than he was fairly decent player for us in non-league.

In particular, he lacks presence and his negative fearful style of play reflects that. He appears to have no tactical nous, He carries baggage because some fans can't ever forgive him for walking out as he did.

I am happy for him to prove me wrong and if there is no change to the off the field team he will have the chance you want him to have.

My concern is more about his bosses. They have more than one chance and
plenty of the continuity JW calls for. I doubt many fans are going cut them any slack but maybe they will DK once the season starts.
Balanced view that reflects my opinion.

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Old 1st June 2020, 15.58:28   #14-0 (permalink)
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We have a manager, now he will have a chance to get his own players and build his own team so give him a chance to see what he can achieve. If we have any true Wrexham supporters left on this forum get behind your team.
Keates' last summer recrtuitment was 2017/18. For sake of argument let's look at his summer signings from that year in order, since it was a massive rehaul of the squad:

1) James Hurst (released by Dover): Less said about him the better.
2) Shaun Pearson (released by Grimsby): Can't argue he was a quality signing.
3) James Jennings (released by Cheltenham): Had him on loan for the 2nd half of 16/17, he's been a good servant of the club for the past few years though
4) Chris Holroyd (released by Macclesfield): Our top scorer of 17/18 with 13. Thought he was one of the better player of that season but fell out of favour when Ricketts took the manager's job.
5) Sam Wedgbury (released by Forest Green): Good player. Really helped the defence with his dogged performances. We got his last season before injury problems hit him.
6) Christian Dibble (signed from Nuneaton, free): Only ever signed to be a #2, it seemed. Started off quite well but now has a (deserved) reputation of being a dodgy keeper.
7) Jack Mackreth (signed from Bury, undisclosed fee): Didn't really do much for us. Was very much on the downswing in terms of ability when we got him.
8) Manny Smith (signed from Gateshead, free): Can't argue the quality of this signing, either.
9) Marcus Kelly (released by Forest Green): I think Keates saw a little of himself in Kelly (small, left footed centre-mid) but he was played out of position. Wasn't a great signing though.
10) Ntumba Massanka (loan from Burnley): 2nd loan to the club after having him for 6 months at the end of 16/17. Had a good attitude, I thought, but wasn't nearly good enough.
11) Scott Boden (released by Inverness): Didn't perform for us but proved elsewhere he had goals in him.
12) Akil Wright (loan from Fleetwood, turned permanent in Jan.): Has had some good moments but is very inconsistent. Hardly played until Keates left.
13) Kevin Roberts (signed from Halifax, undisclosed fee (rumoured $20,000)): I thought he was good in that first season. Second season he seemed to get worse.
14) Alex Reid (loan from Fleetwood): Started very strongly with 3 goals in 3 games and then never scored again.

I think that's everyone. As expected, good defensive signings but lacking in the fire power.

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We have a manager, now he will have a chance to get his own players and build his own team so give him a chance to see what he can achieve. If we have any true Wrexham supporters left on this forum get behind your team.
Thankfully for us all being a fan isn't a p***ing contest.
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Old 1st June 2020, 16.15:11   #16-0 (permalink)
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We have a manager, now he will have a chance to get his own players and build his own team so give him a chance to see what he can achieve. If we have any true Wrexham supporters left on this forum get behind your team.
what flipin planet are you on this man has done so much to alienate the fan base , he is absolute poison
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God help us if and when the season starts we have to witness another season of anti football and listening to Harris drivel on about how he’s the only show in town . No thanks
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Get rid of Darlingtons influence, get a competent and
ambitious assistant and l think he would actually do ok.
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