Club statement on "ill-timed" tweet and club's values reiterated

[RHYLRED]

Originally Posted by Haruki

I understand what you are saying but the flags on the kop give a perceived political standpoint of the club. I personally am left leaning politically so the flags certainly don’t offend me but I am aware they be off putting to others so to be true my politically neutral it would be better to just have no political flags or banners

I agree, It can't be that hard to implement.

[Lods]

Originally Posted by Haruki

Surely the club has a policy for no political banners? Of a racist banner was displayed I would have no doubt that the club would order it taken down immediately, no difference with current flags.

There's a big difference. A racist flag, or any other type of bigoted flag would be an attack on a certain group of fans and players (both ours and opposition), officials and staff. Which to me is way more unacceptable than showing support for a political cause.

Do I think political flags in nature should be allowed? I think so. It's a freedom of expression thing. I personally would not agree with a pro-Conservative flag on the kop but if one was placed there I wouldn't be calling for its removal. Someone just disagrees with me.

[-luke]

Originally Posted by Lods

There's a big difference. A racist flag, or any other type of bigoted flag would be an attack on a certain group of fans and players (both ours and opposition), officials and staff. Which to me is way more unacceptable than showing support for a political cause.

Do I think political flags in nature should be allowed? I think so. It's a freedom of expression thing. I personally would not agree with a pro-Conservative flag on the kop but if one was placed there I wouldn't be calling for its removal. Someone just disagrees with me.

I find it hard to disagree... However wonder if a sack the board banner would be ok

[Vorporix]

Originally Posted by Lods

There's a big difference. A racist flag, or any other type of bigoted flag would be an attack on a certain group of fans and players (both ours and opposition), officials and staff. Which to me is way more unacceptable than showing support for a political cause.

Do I think political flags in nature should be allowed? I think so. It's a freedom of expression thing. I personally would not agree with a pro-Conservative flag on the kop but if one was placed there I wouldn't be calling for its removal. Someone just disagrees with me.

I disagree - television, papers, social media is full of it.

Why not let folk just have 90 minutes off on a Saturday afternoon!

[northwalian dragon]

https://i.imgur.com/Nte5wSI.jpg

Remember Dagenham's whole flag gate?

[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by Lods

There's a big difference. A racist flag, or any other type of bigoted flag would be an attack on a certain group of fans and players (both ours and opposition), officials and staff. Which to me is way more unacceptable than showing support for a political cause.

Do I think political flags in nature should be allowed? I think so. It's a freedom of expression thing. I personally would not agree with a pro-Conservative flag on the kop but if one was placed there I wouldn't be calling for its removal. Someone just disagrees with me.

You and Haruki are entitled to think that, but this is not the point.

The club has issued a statement about their political neutrality, which I fully support. However, that is not compatible with allowing folk to display Mrs T's knickers, Jeremy Corbyn's truss, or Angela Rayner's G-string on the kop.

I go to the Racecourse to watch a game of football. I do not wish to see folks' support for either Celtic or Rangers, the PIRA or UDA, or the State of Israel or PLO.

TAKE MAGGIE'S PANTS DOWN: Along with all the other stuff!

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

The club has issued a statement about their political neutrality

...which is great and everything, but is this issue about politics?

Originally Posted by Rob

A public facebook post that is now 'doing the rounds' giving a view of what happened

https://www.facebook.com/ITKengland/...type=3&theater

"Wrexham v Bolton

With all that’s been going on the word “politics” is on the tip of everyone’s tongue. This post isn’t like our usual ones. We’d much rather wait for the dust to settle before reaching out and sharing any reports. Unfortunately due to people not having a clue, mostly virgins and pretend hooligans, we’ve had to post this to clear some things up. We don’t want the lads who did the business yesterday to become tangled in the webs of the political wannabes and being used as pawns or a banner they can hold up for their own agendas. Young lads having a row has nothing to do with your weird fantasies:

From the horses mouth.

“We had it arranged with Bolton to have it with them that week there was only 7 of my lot all yoof lads aged 16 that went and Bolton had preston and apparently Oldham with them. 20 or so couldve been more of them. We went on a suicide mission as we knew they had loads more and they were all older than us like 19-20 and that. Soon as we got to Manchester we got to the memorial, we weren’t there for that, we ain’t into this political nonsense everyone is trying to say we are now this antifa shite. We were only there for a meet and we went to the back street and seen Bolton and pne and whoever else they had and we had it with them proper bricks bottles the lot. We went at eachother, we had less than half their numbers but we were putting them on the back foot proper for about a good 2 mins they kept backing off as we put a few of there’s on the floor we put them right up the other side of the street then others joined in from the memorial and ruined the whole row entirely.” - BABYLINE Wrexham

All our posts are censored. All our communications secure. Keep your faces covered and be clever when you play the game."


The above matches what has been said more locally in terms of it not being a er, 'political trip'. It is worth noting the person who said it was is that bloke in the initial widely shared and jumped on video, who also said Wrexham has links to the IRA.

All this is probably irrelevant as the wider narrative has become fact.

and all the other bits circulating about the incident that are specific to point out it was not political.

[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by Rob

...which is great and everything, but is this issue about politics?

Which issue?

The WST issued a response to a specific incident but, surely, their worthy response is valid for all issues? including the politicised banners on the kop. Let’s hope they live up to their statement.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

Which issue?

The WST issued a response to a specific incident .

Which specific incident?