Will you boycott with Keates at the club?

[northwalian dragon]

Originally Posted by Lets Av A Riot

you dont half talk crap sometimes... the attendances was well down prior to Keates re-joining... simply because of the whole hughes debacle.. and the fans getting unhappy with the club and board.. hence attendances was low. if anything the attendances unless am mistaken rose once hughes was gone and keates was re-instated.

it seems from many of your posts you like to try twist stuff to suit your own agenda.. something that seems quiet common in your posts.

You are mistaken. Hughes' last home game had an attendance of 3824

Then when Keates came in it started dropping - 3435, 3479, 3469, 3274, 2941

There may be some leeway in the average attendance drop in terms of early season optimism but then that's balanced out by the usual festive period jump in attendances

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Lets Av A Riot

you dont half talk crap sometimes... the attendances was well down prior to Keates re-joining... simply because of the whole hughes debacle.. and the fans getting unhappy with the club and board.. hence attendances was low. if anything the attendances unless am mistaken rose once hughes was gone and keates was re-instated.

it seems from many of your posts you like to try twist stuff to suit your own agenda.. something that seems quiet common in your posts.

Its been a while since you did the day shift..

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by Lets Av A Riot

you dont half talk crap sometimes... the attendances was well down prior to Keates re-joining... simply because of the whole hughes debacle.. and the fans getting unhappy with the club and board.. hence attendances was low. if anything the attendances unless am mistaken rose once hughes was gone and keates was re-instated.

it seems from many of your posts you like to try twist stuff to suit your own agenda.. something that seems quiet common in your posts.

You are mistaken here, yeah. Average attendance in league games in Hughes's time at the club during the 2018-19 season was 5073.

09/02/19 Dagenham & Redbridge 5366
02/03/19 Chesterfield 7106
12/03/19 Barrow 4613
16/03/19 Maidstone United 3604
06/04/19 Braintree Town 4221
19/04/19 Sutton United 5264
27/04/19 Harrogate Town 3690
02/05/19 Eastleigh 6723


Average attendance in league games during Hughes's time at the club in 2019-20 held up fairly well at 4877.

03/08/19 Barrow 5941
13/08/19 FC Halifax Town 5517
24/08/19 Barnet 4533
31/08/19 Stockport County 5777
03/09/19 Maidenhead United 3667
14/09/19 Sutton United 3824


Average attendance in league games since Keates took over was down to 3649.

28/09/19 Ebbsfleet United 3627
08/10/19 Harrogate Town 3435
15/10/19 Chesterfield 3479
02/11/19 Bromley 3469
23/11/19 Yeovil Town 3583
26/11/19 AFC Fylde 2941
07/12/19 Solihull Moors 3113
26/12/19 Chorley 4764
04/01/20 Aldershot Town 4222
18/01/20 Woking 3671
01/02/20 Dagenham & Redbridge 4024
07/03/20 Eastleigh 3436

[Phils-an-alki]

'lets av a riot' gets everything wrong yet again shocker.

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by Lets Av A Riot

you dont half talk crap sometimes... the attendances was well down prior to Keates re-joining... simply because of the whole hughes debacle.. and the fans getting unhappy with the club and board.. hence attendances was low. if anything the attendances unless am mistaken rose once hughes was gone and keates was re-instated.

it seems from many of your posts you like to try twist stuff to suit your own agenda.. something that seems quiet common in your posts.

Out of interest, is this what you were doing in the first paragraph, which as I showed above is factually wrong? Or was it a genuine error?

[northwalian dragon]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

Agree. We are pulling in all directions due to the various factions wanting it all their way.

Just out of interest (not being arsey) what are the different directions and factions?

[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by northwalian dragon

Just out of interest (not being arsey) what are the different directions and factions?

There is your initiative.

There was my suggestion.

There were rumours that ‘something big’ was happening behind the scene.

There was the push for an EGM which fizzled out.

There is the Board’s calamitous managerial appointments, resulting in our lowest finish ever.

There is the re-emergence of LJ as temporary Independent Secretary by the WST and Board.

There are loyal fans who have effectively given up.

There is the Board and WST hiding behind an impenetrable constitution, hoping its members cannot figure out how to navigate it to bring about the necessary change.


I am sure there are many other directions we — and I include myself here — are pulling in. My fear is that we lose sight that this is all about taking Wrexham AFC forward, as quickly and effectively as is humanly possible.

That requires dialogue, consensus, agreement and, inevitably, compromise; unless I win £100m on the Euromillions, when all our problems will be...

[Prodigal Dragon]

To clarify, IMHO, there are essentially 4 basic options:

1. Maintain the status quo and hope the WST know what they are doing, and have the wherewithal to do it.

2. Keep the WST model but make some necessary changes to make it work better, which help us create a more united and successful club.

3. Revolution! Burn all the bridges and run the WST out of town, but with no viable alternative in place.

4. Revolution! Burn all the bridges and run the WST out of town, but with a viable alternative in place.

None of the options are guaranteed to work, but either option 2 or 4 seems the best to me; whilst options 1 and 4 are akin to the old proverb, ‘out of the frying-pan and into the fire!’

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

To clarify, IMHO, there are essentially 4 basic options:

1. Maintain the status quo and hope the WST know what they are doing, and have the wherewithal to do it.

2. Keep the WST model but make some necessary changes to make it work better, which help us create a more united and successful club.

3. Revolution! Burn all the bridges and run the WST out of town, but with no viable alternative in place.

4. Revolution! Burn all the bridges and run the WST out of town, but with a viable alternative in place.

None of the options are guaranteed to work, but either option 2 or 4 seems the best to me; whilst options 1 and 4 are akin to the old proverb, ‘out of the frying-pan and into the fire!’

2 is already happening in part but in my opinion will not go far enough.

4 is the best option although the WST itself doesn't need running out of town, just those at the top who value their positions over anything else and are pissed on their own importance.