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View Poll Results: How would you like the future ownership of Wrexham AFC to be?
WST 100% Control 30 12.10%
WST Part Ownership 146 58.87%
Full Sale 68 27.42%
Other. Please State. 4 1.61%
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Old 21st June 2020, 12.58:26   #21-0 (permalink)
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I voted part ownership and by that I meant the WST having to relinquish full control.

If someone is putting cash in they will rightly want in excess of 50%.

Let's be honest the WST have made a cats arse of the club and the only way to save it now is by fresh outside investment and it can"t happen soon enough.

However I see it continuing under this communist style regime and the club eventually dying with the various factions blaming each other.

Such a shame because the club has fantastic potential
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Old 21st June 2020, 13.06:53   #22-0 (permalink)
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Just 8% backing full WST ownership. Pretty shocking. Poll should be emailed across once a larger sample size is obtained. I know we need to vote in an AGM but this highlights the high proportion of the fan base that has lost hope.
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Old 21st June 2020, 13.12:50   #23-0 (permalink)
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Just 8% backing full WST ownership. Pretty shocking. Poll should be emailed across once a larger sample size is obtained. I know we need to vote in an AGM but this highlights the high proportion of the fan base that has lost hope.
They really do not care. The people currently heading up WST want fans ownership and nothing else. Lindsay for example has such strong views it’s hard to grasp! As long as the constitution protects them, they’ll simply laugh at polls like this.
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Old 21st June 2020, 13.14:38   #24-0 (permalink)
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Just 8% backing full WST ownership. Pretty shocking. Poll should be emailed across once a larger sample size is obtained. I know we need to vote in an AGM but this highlights the high proportion of the fan base that has lost hope.
They just stitched up the AGM with the 90 day rule exactly as I predicted.

If they were really open to change you would be able to join now and get a vote.

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Old 21st June 2020, 13.14:43   #25-0 (permalink)
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Weren't we in the championship under private ownership?
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We were but obviously a long time ago. I just want to see some hope for us but year after year it is getting worse under this model.
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Old 21st June 2020, 13.18:08   #26-0 (permalink)
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Just 8% backing full WST ownership. Pretty shocking. Poll should be emailed across once a larger sample size is obtained. I know we need to vote in an AGM but this highlights the high proportion of the fan base that has lost hope.
I voted for full ownership as it ask’s what I would like to see, however I don’t believe it’s possible to continue in this format and deliver success as we don’t have the skill set on the board to deliver it. I would love fans ownership but it can’t continue as it is they, have turned on fans and have made no apologies for it or the bad management. With the right people I would love fans ownership but feel a full sale is the only thing that would move us forward.

Ie I would like fans ownership but we need and should sell the club.

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Old 21st June 2020, 13.25:18   #27-0 (permalink)
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I voted for full ownership as it ask’s what I would like to see, however I don’t believe it’s possible to continue in this format and deliver success as we don’t have the skill set on the board to deliver it. I would love fans ownership but it can’t continue as it is they, have turned on fans and have made no apologies for it or the bad management. With the right people I would love fans ownership but feel a full sale is the only thing that would move us forward.

Ie I would like fans ownership but we need and should sell the club.
Nice to hear some views from those who are in the minority for a change.
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Old 21st June 2020, 13.37:56   #28-0 (permalink)
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I voted part ownership and by that I meant the WST having to relinquish full control.

If someone is putting cash in they will rightly want in excess of 50%.

Let's be honest the WST have made a cats arse of the club and the only way to save it now is by fresh outside investment and it can"t happen soon enough.

However I see it continuing under this communist style regime and the club eventually dying with the various factions blaming each other.

Such a shame because the club has fantastic potential

Exact reasons I voted part ownership, but any investor would need majority share, it's either this or be having this conversation again in non league in 12 years.. If the club still exists along with many others.
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Old 21st June 2020, 14.01:20   #29-0 (permalink)
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As I've posted before, whichever ownership model is in place, a club can be well run or badly run.
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If the WST maintained full ownership of the stadium lease through WST Assets Limited and charged its running costs to the club on a cost recovery basis then I would see selling up to 50% of the club as a real opportunity that would raise capital, being in some real business and commercial skills but not risk the figure of the ground or the club due to the Supporters continues involvement.
Yup.

Personally I think there's two ways to look at mixed ownership. One is to look at ways to safeguard anything that bad owners would like to exploit, as you suggested, then sell whatever shareholding. Thus giving a chance to grow, bring in other ideas/experience and work to set short, medium and long-term plans.

The other way as seeing it as 'the great evil'.
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