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Old 25th June 2020, 11.59:40   #21-0 (permalink)
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Hughes shouldn't have been manager full stop and was clearly massively out of his depth. if your a good player you going to want to be working with a decent manager and set up not someone whos been doing foot golf for the last few years.

I would say with Keates with his first time here though when we got to the key January transfer he failed utterly with the pllayers he bought in.
Keates'first time round put a lot of graft in and that helped massively. He was doing all sorts turning up to fan group events, attending games to watch players.

This time I'm not convinced he's working anywhere near as hard.
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To think we paid an agent so that we could sign:

McIntosh, Barnum-Bobb, Grant and Barton.

Makes you feel numb.
Yep, more fans money wasted yet the begging bowl is out again for more.
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Old 25th June 2020, 17.18:49   #23-0 (permalink)
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The point is, they're are clearly issues that go beyond the manager. The scouting team don't seem to dovetail with the management team and vice versa. Only one man is able to sort that out, if you could and were that way inclined you could do whatever you want in work if your managers says nothing and keeps renewing your contract no questions asked.
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Old 25th June 2020, 17.53:10   #24-0 (permalink)
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Keates'first time round put a lot of graft in and that helped massively. He was doing all sorts turning up to fan group events, attending games to watch players.

This time I'm not convinced he's working anywhere near as hard.
He said in his first interview back he'd have to get out into fans events and build bridges

He's been no where near the fanbase. Walks straight down the tunnel after a loss. Refused to do a meet the manager.

Now he's asking the fans to stick with the team. Why should we stick with Keates when he didn't stick with us?
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He said in his first interview back he'd have to get out into fans events and build bridges

He's been no where near the fanbase. Walks straight down the tunnel after a loss. Refused to do a meet the manager.

Now he's asking the fans to stick with the team. Why should we stick with Keates when he didn't stick with us?
He asked for that at Walsall, soon got sacked after.
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Don't follow this comment and that is probably my ignorance of club politics. Surely the manager picks the players he wants to sign and then the club administrators have to work out if we can afford the players wage demands signing on fee etc ? Then the manager must fit that player into a 'style' of play ( i use that term carefully in DK's case).
How can that be controlled (other than the financial side) is difficult for me to follow ?
If we set a club football strategy it would help. A club style of play and appoint managers to play to that set style of play therefore most of the players they inherit are fit for purpose and it avoids the constant mass clear out. (Look at Swansea’s rise as an example ). Limit the waste of money on loan players and insist on utilising our youth players instead.
Set up a properly effective scouting system and only sign players that for the system rather than signing strikers and expecting goals when you aren’t playing to their strengths
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Old 26th June 2020, 11.27:02   #27-0 (permalink)
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£22k that could have gone towards a CEO.
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Old 26th June 2020, 12.08:10   #28-0 (permalink)
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He said in his first interview back he'd have to get out into fans events and build bridges

He's been no where near the fanbase. Walks straight down the tunnel after a loss. Refused to do a meet the manager.

Now he's asking the fans to stick with the team. Why should we stick with Keates when he didn't stick with us?
He's been conspicuous in his absence since the lockdown hasnt he? Whereas players have been in the media, delivering pizzas, phoning vulnerable fans etc I don't recall hearing or seeing anything from the manager trying to engage with the fanbase.

Happy to be corrected though.
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He's been conspicuous in his absence since the lockdown hasnt he? Whereas players have been in the media, delivering pizzas, phoning vulnerable fans etc I don't recall hearing or seeing anything from the manager trying to engage with the fanbase.

Happy to be corrected though.
To be fair he is furloughed. The likes of Pearson and a few others Have been in the news , but that’s because they have been active outside of the football club eg Fat Boar.
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Im not that happy we even paid some of them players a wage never mind an agent fee
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