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View Poll Results: Which WST share ownership would you endorse?
51% or more (controlling interest) 69 37.91%
50% 25 13.74%
40% 29 15.93%
30% 14 7.69%
20% 16 8.79%
10% 29 15.93%
Voters: 182. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 22nd July 2020, 14.54:55   #82-0 (permalink)
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To be fair the poll shows nothing really interesting apart from the fact that fans are divided and most can't be bothered to even register a vote.
Until an offer is on the table that can be verified as genuine then there is really nothing to discuss. The devil will be in the detail and members will decide if it's acceptable.
Problem is that things are getting so bad and fans are that pissed off that it might lead us to take any other alternative which might not be wise. Sooner or later something will give, we can't carry on like this.

The sensible route would be for the WST to admit defeat, admit it hasn't worked and put the club up for sale. Instantly this stops most infighting and kills most of the current arguments that rage on. The WST board and Club board can then move on and get on with their lives.

There's nothing left to defend the WST with anymore so that debate is now dead.

The debate now should be how best to sell the club and ensure it goes to the right people. Welcome interested parties to the table and sort out the chancers from the genuine buyers. Get professional help with this. Speak with Wycombe's trust and Portsmouth's who have both sold up.

But some fans need to open their eyes and get to grips with reality instead of hoping that their pipedream of 100% fan ownership will magically sort itself out.
It won't, there's 10 years of evidence to back that up; to sum that up the club has gone backwards in that time and that rot may not stop here.
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well said phil
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Old 22nd July 2020, 20.16:02   #84-0 (permalink)
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Problem is that things are getting so bad and fans are that pissed off that it might lead us to take any other alternative which might not be wise. Sooner or later something will give, we can't carry on like this.

The sensible route would be for the WST to admit defeat, admit it hasn't worked and put the club up for sale. Instantly this stops most infighting and kills most of the current arguments that rage on. The WST board and Club board can then move on and get on with their lives.

There's nothing left to defend the WST with anymore so that debate is now dead.

The debate now should be how best to sell the club and ensure it goes to the right people. Welcome interested parties to the table and sort out the chancers from the genuine buyers. Get professional help with this. Speak with Wycombe's trust and Portsmouth's who have both sold up.

But some fans need to open their eyes and get to grips with reality instead of hoping that their pipedream of 100% fan ownership will magically sort itself out.
It won't, there's 10 years of evidence to back that up; to sum that up the club has gone backwards in that time and that rot may not stop here.
But Phil even on this poll a majority of fans do not want the WST to have less than 50% ownership.
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But Phil even on this poll a majority of fans do not want the WST to have less than 50% ownership.
I wonder how many people would have voted for 0% if it was an option?
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I wonder how many people would have voted for 0% if it was an option?
Yes good point
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Old 22nd July 2020, 21.23:03   #87-0 (permalink)
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Yes good point
I thought at the time why wasn’t it an option to vote for.
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I thought at the time why wasn’t it an option to vote for.
I assumed that anyone of the zero persuasion would have clicked on 10% or at least had a moan about it on the thread!
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I assumed that anyone of the zero persuasion would have clicked on 10% or at least had a moan about it on the thread!
Probably! For me, it depends. I want the current people in charge to have 0% because I don't trust them at all and I don't see any way to change things, since we can't believe their minutes, they can co-opt anyone they want to back onto the board, even if we vote them off, and they don't feel the need to act on resolutions.

With different people in charge, I might still be firmly of the 'must own 100%' belief which I held for many years.
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the majority of Wrexham supporters are not even wst members and have no interest in being members or voting, or constitutions, or societies and those that do are assisting in killing this football club for self satisfaction at the cost of the majority, the sooner "fan ownership" and the iron curtain around it come tumbling down the better
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