The Groves Training Ground: How will you be voting?

[WrexhamO]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

The certainty afforded by owning / leasing our own facility, I believe, is better than jumping from place to place trying to use a venue which may or may not be available. The Groves seems to be a reasonable option from the layout that's been posted on the web site.
Literally rent free.
Pitches can be developed as a phase 1. Strip off, regrade, Drainage and irrigation. Replace Topsoil/ mixed with free draining material and Seed.
Car park stoned up temporarily.
Better facility than 9Acre as if drained properly can be used far more.
Build in water recycling tanks underground for reuse in watering the pitches.
Racecourse facilities can still be used for changing etc.
Develop facility as and when economically viable.

Spencer said that the cheap option did not include drainage or irrigation to start at £110k

Would we have to do the fencing to start?

How much would business rates be?

[Hometown Unicorn]

https://www.oxford.gov.uk/news/artic...ining_facility

This excellent facility is a few miles out of the city centre. A club who have advanced far more than we could possibly dream of under the current regime.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by WrexhamO

Spencer said that the cheap option did not include drainage or irrigation to start at £110k

Would we have to do the fencing to start?

How much would business rates be?

Fencing is part of Heads of terms.
If we don't drain the site properly at day 1 then it's a useless project and serves us no better than 9acre. We'd still be begging from the FAW, Carden Park, Druids, Lex.
No idea on Business rates. Could be waived?

[Inside Left]

Originally Posted by Funny_Old_Game

Where’s the initial money coming from to do it?

There is a raft of grants available for new development, improvements plus some if community access is part of the scheme.
The outline plans also show floodlighting so the facility would be available for use at night time as well.

[Jaded]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Fencing is part of Heads of terms.
If we don't drain the site properly at day 1 then it's a useless project and serves us no better than 9acre. We'd still be begging from the FAW, Carden Park, Druids, Lex.
No idea on Business rates. Could be waived?

The 'lowest possible spend' in their presentation suggests that they're considering not doing drainage, doesn't it? Cost of 2 pitches is £110k, cost of drainage is £47k, 'lowest possible spend' is listed as £110k.

[standman]

Originally Posted by Inside Left

There is a raft of grants available for new development, improvements plus some if community access is part of the scheme.
The outline plans also show floodlighting so the facility would be available for use at night time as well.

The Groves school tried to install flood lights but failed to get planning permission, so how would we get it at the same spot when a school couldn’t achieve permission?

[Bagger Vance]

Originally Posted by Jaded

The 'lowest possible spend' in their presentation suggests that they're considering not doing drainage, doesn't it? Cost of 2 pitches is £110k, cost of drainage is £47k, 'lowest possible spend' is listed as £110k.

Drainage at that cost looks like drainaway sink holes rather than channelled away which would be around £150k done properly for the site. Be interesting to know the type of drainage they have costed as there is a difference in effectiveness and effective life expectancy. It needs detail which the presentation lacks.

[Bagger Vance]

Originally Posted by standman

The Groves school tried to install flood lights but failed to get planning permission, so how would we get it at the same spot when a school couldn’t achieve permission?

Potentially directional lighting which most 4g installations use to get around light pollution issues with residents. If it’s post 6pm usage it may also require sound barriers depending on sound surveys and distance to residential properties.

[WrexhamO]

Originally Posted by Jaded

The 'lowest possible spend' in their presentation suggests that they're considering not doing drainage, doesn't it? Cost of 2 pitches is £110k, cost of drainage is £47k, 'lowest possible spend' is listed as £110k.

That is correct. Spencer proposed 2 pitches no drainage to replicate 9 acres