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Old 31st July 2020, 21.39:54   #1-0 (permalink)
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Default Let the truth come out... all of it.

I, like many others on here, have become totally dismayed with how the club is run. We're seemingly lurching from one embarrassing episode to the next. The whole club from top to bottom, in both an administrative sense and a footballing sense, has become shambolic. I won't repeatedly mention the failures we've had to endure, we all know what they are.

The vast majority of us want to see complete change of ownership to arrest this drastic slide in our position - both in a footballing sense and the club as a whole. It's evident to me that those in charge have absolutely no intention of relinquishing their hold on proceedings any time soon - to me this will endanger the club's very existense.

There have been such disgraceful things that have happened, I apologise if I've missed any obvious ones, such as:

Treatment of the DSA
The shocking mis-treatment of the Youth Set-Up and those involved (as highlighted by Bagger Vance amongst others)
Targeting people ('dissenters' if you like) by intimidation, including contacting their employers and publishing private information about them.
The lies regarding Don Bircham and what he's subsequently had to endure.
Groves Training Ground proposals and its lack of substance.

I'm sure there are many others to add to this list, a list that just wouldn't be tolerated at any other proffesional club. So what I was wondering is should all of this, every last sordid detail, be put together into some kind of exposè that can be sent (and maybe published) in something like FourFourTwo Magazine or some other football publication, or maybe sent to Radio Wales/Cymru or 5Live etc. Every poster on here who has suffered at the hands of those running the club, every one who knows for a fact that these things have happened and would be willing to show proof and bring to light about the dreadful goings on.

We know local media wouldn't dare do it, it's all too cosy a relationship with the club.

I just feel the only way we may see change is to expose the truth, expose it fully on a national level. Surely this would then open the eyes of those fans that blindly follow the WST and believe all is well.

Stirring up some fervour around our predicament and exposing those behaviours from people who've acted so abhorrently at the helm of our club.

Thoughts?
Old 31st July 2020, 21.46:28   #2-0 (permalink)
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If its the only way to get some accountability then count me in

The false board minutes must be addressed. It'll end the club if its not addressed
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Old 31st July 2020, 22.33:02   #3-0 (permalink)
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If its the only way to get some accountability then count me in

The false board minutes must be addressed. It'll end the club if its not addressed
The football world needs to know what is going on.
Old 31st July 2020, 22.53:40   #4-0 (permalink)
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The football World couldn't give a shit unless it's the premieshite. That's the sad fact of the matter
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Out of all those things the one that should raise the headlines is trying to get people sacked from there jobs. Im sure going to 5 live with that shouldn't be too difficult if theres enough evidence
Old 31st July 2020, 23.20:45   #6-0 (permalink)
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Out of all those things the one that should raise the headlines is trying to get people sacked from there jobs. Im sure going to 5 live with that shouldn't be too difficult if theres enough evidence
They'd absolutely sh*t their pants.
Old 1st August 2020, 06.58:48   #7-0 (permalink)
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I agree to an extent that a lot of the mainstream media only care about the Premier League.
However I do feel that FourFourTwo aren't too bad an cover football at all kinds of levels. 5Live I'm sure would show some interest in what's gone on, and TalkSport like a good scandal don't they.

Ultimately, some of the behaviour has been scandalous to say the least and the wider UK football world should know about it.

Provided that there's solid evidence to everything that's said, I think it could be very powerful to raise awareness and ultimately lead to the change of ownership that we want.
Old 1st August 2020, 08.45:04   #8-0 (permalink)
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I, like many others on here, have become totally dismayed with how the club is run. We're seemingly lurching from one embarrassing episode to the next. The whole club from top to bottom, in both an administrative sense and a footballing sense, has become shambolic. I won't repeatedly mention the failures we've had to endure, we all know what they are.

The vast majority of us want to see complete change of ownership to arrest this drastic slide in our position - both in a footballing sense and the club as a whole. It's evident to me that those in charge have absolutely no intention of relinquishing their hold on proceedings any time soon - to me this will endanger the club's very existense.

There have been such disgraceful things that have happened, I apologise if I've missed any obvious ones, such as:

Treatment of the DSA
The shocking mis-treatment of the Youth Set-Up and those involved (as highlighted by Bagger Vance amongst others)
Targeting people ('dissenters' if you like) by intimidation, including contacting their employers and publishing private information about them.
The lies regarding Don Bircham and what he's subsequently had to endure.
Groves Training Ground proposals and its lack of substance.

I'm sure there are many others to add to this list, a list that just wouldn't be tolerated at any other proffesional club. So what I was wondering is should all of this, every last sordid detail, be put together into some kind of exposè that can be sent (and maybe published) in something like FourFourTwo Magazine or some other football publication, or maybe sent to Radio Wales/Cymru or 5Live etc. Every poster on here who has suffered at the hands of those running the club, every one who knows for a fact that these things have happened and would be willing to show proof and bring to light about the dreadful goings on.

We know local media wouldn't dare do it, it's all too cosy a relationship with the club.

I just feel the only way we may see change is to expose the truth, expose it fully on a national level. Surely this would then open the eyes of those fans that blindly follow the WST and believe all is well.

Stirring up some fervour around our predicament and exposing those behaviours from people who've acted so abhorrently at the helm of our club.

Thoughts?
Could you post this up to Wrexham fans United please?
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Old 1st August 2020, 08.56:39   #9-0 (permalink)
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Out of all those things the one that should raise the headlines is trying to get people sacked from there jobs. Im sure going to 5 live with that shouldn't be too difficult if theres enough evidence
Problem is that there is no hard evidence. I firmly believe that some fans have been victims of a campaign to discredit them in the past and it appears that employers have been contacted but unless the evidence of that has been saved, it's just hearsay.
Old 1st August 2020, 09.08:20   #10-0 (permalink)
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Problem is that there is no hard evidence. I firmly believe that some fans have been victims of a campaign to discredit them in the past and it appears that employers have been contacted but unless the evidence of that has been saved, it's just hearsay.
So those fans who've said this has happened and mentioned it here are lying then?
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