Is Red Passion just a forum for extremists now!

[John Neals Dynasty]

Originally Posted by crazywelsh

I don’t think this is any different to holding a poll on the “Wrexham fans united page” none of them want to hear that everything isn’t rosy, nothing against the board or against fan ownership.

Red passion wasn’t always like this!!! I can tell you now some posters still on here dougie, ugarte, jaded ... even Phil which by his current posts are hard to believe used to be pro WST.

When I pointed out the failings at the time Ugarte actually said I don’t like saying fans leave but maybe that’s for the best, the post will still be on here because I stated the board was failing. It has only taken a few years but those very posts I made seem to be being made by so many different people, call red passion the vipers den etc but it’s far from it.

Point out failings on Wrexham fans united and they refuse to hear it because of their general socialist ideology of a community club, politics has no place in football. Some will laugh at me stating it like JND, but the truth is the club became a left wing spin machine pumping its own propaganda and everyone can see it.

I'm not laughing although I think politics has nothing to do with fan ownership socialist or Capitalist.

It's more an ideology probably closer to obsession because of the past, its also accepting being a small time club.

The hatred being shown by the clappers is more like a religious hatred than politics
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[Phils-an-alki]

Posted this thread and ran. That in itself speaks volumes.
Nothing more than a cult follower with an agenda to desperately try and discredit anyone who has the audacity to not be happy with all the cover ups, lies and the fact the club is going backwards.

Just another ignorant and insulting post from someone who's agenda is clear. Keep his cult leaders in power at all costs.

[Screwe Alexander]

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

Posted this thread and ran. That in itself speaks volumes.
Nothing more than a cult follower with an agenda to desperately try and discredit anyone who has the audacity to not be happy with all the cover ups, lies and the fact the club is going backwards.

Just another ignorant and insulting post from someone who's agenda is clear. Keep his cult leaders in power at all costs.

I suppose posts like this don't help healthy debate. Anyone who shows the slightest support for the fans ownership model is getting shouted down by a handful of vocal posters.

I certainly wouldn't say those who are seeking change are extremist but I do think this forum has become a bit of an eco-system for those with an anti-trust stance.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Screwe Alexander

I suppose posts like this don't help healthy debate. Anyone who shows the slightest support for the fans ownership model is getting shouted down by a handful of vocal posters.

I certainly wouldn't say those who are seeking change are extremist but I do think this forum has become a bit of an eco-system for those with an anti-trust stance.

I'm not here to 'help healthy debate', honestly couldn't care less. That ignores the fact there is no debate to be had anymore, the evidence is damning and cannot be defended in anyway shape or form.
Which is why you get threads like this from people who put this ownership model and those in charge ahead of the club.
Which is probably why you say 'anti-trust stance' like people haven't got a book full of solid reasons to back up their stance. Its pathetic and its feeble.

Oh and in the same way I suppose threads like this, of which the opening post is dripping in ignorance, don't help either.

[moynkeepthefaith]

I'm an extremist and so's my wife

[fezbob]

"Extremists" and "not real fans". Any other names for supporters who don't toe the party line? Voting numbers are low as mass apathy has set in.

I'm sure the board will be congratulating themselves on the majority backing for the new training ground, but apathy is death to football clubs. It also doesn't remove any of the concerns over the costing of the plans, which appears to be on the low side.

Well done to those who attended the virtual meeting and scrutinised the presentation.

[cardiffred]

Originally Posted by Screwe Alexander

I suppose posts like this don't help healthy debate. Anyone who shows the slightest support for the fans ownership model is getting shouted down by a handful of vocal posters.

I certainly wouldn't say those who are seeking change are extremist but I do think this forum has become a bit of an eco-system for those with an anti-trust stance.

I'd imagine posts like that are exactly what the original poster wanted to see.

[Hightown Brymbo Red]

The trust has only 1200 members they seem to be in the minority

[t1954]

Originally Posted by Hightown Brymbo Red

The trust has only 1200 members they seem to be in the minority

Is this the total number of trust members now? It was over 3k.

I did not vote on this issue although I was presented with an email etc. To be honest I was not sure which way to vote. Although I have been a trust member for many years, I honestly believe that the Trust as taken the club as far as it can go. We badly need investment. Now if we had an online members vote of no confidence in the board and trust I would vote for change. I honestly do not believe that the recent vote reflects confidence in the Trust and they should look for other buyers/take over.

They helped saved the club several years ago with the huge help of fans, but since we have gone backward year on year on the pitch. Gates will reflect the attitude of the disallusioned fans towards the club, it is only a matter of time before we have to look for change or the club will be relegated or fold.