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Old 9th August 2020, 13.40:19   #11-0 (permalink)
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In the past I have been part of placing a resolution to the AGM . Cant really understand why anyone would need to liase with LJ as secretary unless the person undertaking said resolution was unfamiliar with the process.

I have also placed successful resolutions at many a professional and local government meeting. There is no mystery to it. On Saturday I was doing some paperwork whilst following the Zoom. I guess some others were also working and following the meeting.

I admire anyone who goes to the trouble of constructing resolutions but lets not give the impression that there is a need for the secretary to give it the rubber stamp.
Also are you going to address the question I posed of Whether it is fair For you to accuse those taking the time to enter resolutions of a lack of “common courtesy”. Personally I think that comment was bang out of order and should be retracted
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Also are you going to address the question I posed of Whether it is fair For you to accuse those taking the time to enter resolutions of a lack of “common courtesy”. Personally I think that comment was bang out of order and should be retracted
You will not get a retraction. Not addressing ones position re a proposal suggests an amateur approach involvement. And no I will not retract the word amateur.
How sensitive can some people be. Walk on.
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Old 9th August 2020, 14.13:36   #13-0 (permalink)
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In the past I have been part of placing a resolution to the AGM . Cant really understand why anyone would need to liase with LJ as secretary unless the person undertaking said resolution was unfamiliar with the process.

I have also placed successful resolutions at many a professional and local government meeting. There is no mystery to it. On Saturday I was doing some paperwork whilst following the Zoom. I guess some others were also working and following the meeting.

I admire anyone who goes to the trouble of constructing resolutions but lets not give the impression that there is a need for the secretary to give it the rubber stamp.
I mean... There's multiple emails back and forth so id argue you're wrong tbh
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Old 9th August 2020, 14.16:08   #14-0 (permalink)
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You will not get a retraction. Not addressing ones position re a proposal suggests an amateur approach involvement. And no I will not retract the word amateur.
How sensitive can some people be. Walk on.
For me it's common sense to attend in person and address and explain the reasoning behind your resolution. Or get someone else to do it on your behalf .
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Old 9th August 2020, 16.01:31   #15-0 (permalink)
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You will not get a retraction. Not addressing ones position re a proposal suggests an amateur approach involvement. And no I will not retract the word amateur.
How sensitive can some people be. Walk on.
I believe that passive aggressive response say more about you than it does me so happy to leave it there
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For me it's common sense to attend in person and address and explain the reasoning behind your resolution. Or get someone else to do it on your behalf .
Within the WST rules it says when submitting a resolution that you need to provide the form, justification for and content of it. At no point does it say you need to stand up in front of class and repeat all this. I struggle to see what benefit this adds.

It’s odd that some people voted based on whether the person presenting the resolution was actually at the meeting rather than whether they agreed with the resolution or not. Each to their own I guess.
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Old 9th August 2020, 18.53:18   #17-0 (permalink)
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Not everybody has the luxury of a Saturday free or the luxury of working from home. To suggest rudeness/lack of common courtesy by not being there is somewhat lacking in empathy themselves in my view.

I have to book my holidays well in advance (months up to a year) since the amount of people able to cover isn't huge. Perhaps others are in similar situations. Who knows? Just assuming doesn't help things.
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Old 10th August 2020, 07.43:23   #18-0 (permalink)
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True. My wife was not impressed when i told her of the AGM timings, and the inference that i wanted to listen in live. Shopping was squeezed in earlier to accomodate me getting into Zoom at 2pm.
"Well its not as important as work, is it?" was her response. The fact that over 2000 other Trust members didnt join zoom on Saturday, could suggest that other households had similar conversations. Or was it that they simply "could'nt be arsed La!".
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True. My wife was not impressed when i told her of the AGM timings, and the inference that i wanted to listen in live. Shopping was squeezed in earlier to accomodate me getting into Zoom at 2pm.
"Well its not as important as work, is it?" was her response. The fact that over 2000 other Trust members didnt join zoom on Saturday, could suggest that other households had similar conversations. Or was it that they simply "could'nt be arsed La!".
Given that you could vote without needing to sit through the meeting, was there much point in attending? Easier just to read the summary on here.

Or wait for the official WST summary....
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Old 10th August 2020, 07.55:38   #20-0 (permalink)
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I wanted to catch a glimpse of the "keano's" who see the club through rose tinted spectacles. I have been coming to the Racecourse since 1967 and I didnt recognise the majority on there. I must get out more!
I think some folks wallow in all the technicalities of running the club and being in the Trust. It bores me rigid. After watching perhaps an hour of the performance, i am more likely to get an alternative winter hobby than join that lot splitting the atom!
To conclude the Trust clan have a higher percentage of fans who love that sort of stuff, whilst most Wrexham fans i know, run a mile. Hence the low voting figures and even lower Zoom attenders.
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