Giggs and Dean - joint inventors of a new approach to football

[FieldtownRed]

Originally Posted by RHYLRED

I thought it was fairly entertaining last night, the Ireland game however was awful.

Likewise, four nations league games, 3 wins, no goals conceded, top of the group.

Keates can only dream of being this negative.

[basdragon]

Originally Posted by BillEBadass

Giggs is clearly the master of this new tactic as it worked 100% last night in Bulgaria. Dean hasn't quite got it yet but is on the way.

And this new master plan? - bore the opposition with numerous back passes, don't play any real forwards, put no pressure whatsoever on the opposition goalie and ensure any free kicks present no problems to defenders.....

So what is the purpose of all this? - hope that the opposition, along with the vast majority of supporters, fall asleep. You know it makes sense.

Not really a new concept though is it ? There have been plenty of exponents of anti football over the years. George Graham and Roy Hodgson immediately spring to mind, and plenty of Italian national managers got to world cup finals using it.

Change of management and mindset required but I'm preaching to the converted

[LlayDragon]

Originally Posted by BillEBadass

Giggs is clearly the master of this new tactic as it worked 100% last night in Bulgaria. Dean hasn't quite got it yet but is on the way.

And this new master plan? - bore the opposition with numerous back passes, don't play any real forwards, put no pressure whatsoever on the opposition goalie and ensure any free kicks present no problems to defenders.....

So what is the purpose of all this? - hope that the opposition, along with the vast majority of supporters, fall asleep. You know it makes sense.

Bugger me, you were desperate for a thread-starter.

[Hometown Unicorn]

Originally Posted by rob_1072

Perhaps deserves a little leeway but come on did you not see the Ireland game?

It was awful, but even the best managers get it wrong at times and on paper there wasn't a lot between the teams. He made up for it last night in my view, by changing the set up and we got a well deserved win out of it despite us only fielding 3 players who had scored for us in the past (Neco, Wilson and James with 6 goals between them).

[Back of the Kop]

Originally Posted by rob_1072

They won 1 game of their last 20 have Bulgaria.

I’m happy with points haul and the results. But performances have been dire. Down to personnel or game plan?

How old are you , 7 or 8 maybe ?

You must be or you would be like most of us as Welsh football fans, scarred by Anfield 1977, Ninian Park 1985, Cardiff Arrms Park 1993 and the Millienium Stadium 2003.

All heartbreaking occasions where we entertained for sure but just didn't have that killer instinct and sheer grit to get over the line. Give me a dour 1-0 win any day over a heroic, attacking defeat.

We are a tiny nation punching way above its weight with a plethora of youngsters who are coming through who look so comfortable in the environment.

I think Giggs has done an incredible job results wise when you consider the absentees and has qualified for a major tournament at his first attempt and currently sits top of the Nations League group. "Lucky late goals" (What exactly was lucky about them ?) ha, What I would have done for a late "Lucky" Welsh goal in any of the above games.

Cheer up, it's good being a Welsh football fan whether you like the manager or not

[wrexhamandy]

To be fair Wales are currently missing their four best players for getting us playing and attacking - Bale, Allen, Brooks and Ramsey. The replacemts are championship level quality. I don’t mind playing it tighter in those circumstances and grinding out results whilst we wait for them to come back. We played better attacking football under Giggs when we had them all fit and playing.

And Wales still played possession football. Unlike Keates’ hoof it to isolated strikers approach. Aimlessly keeping the ball for a bit would be a step up right now!

[Hometown Unicorn]

Originally Posted by wrexhamandy

To be fair Wales are currently missing their four best players for getting us playing and attacking - Bale, Allen, Brooks and Ramsey. The replacemts are championship level quality. I don’t mind playing it tighter in those circumstances and grinding out results whilst we wait for them to come back. We played better attacking football under Giggs when we had them all fit and playing.

Not to mention Moore who was pivotal in qualifying for the Euros. Dan James looks a shadow of his previous self at the moment too.

[welshian]

And how many of those playing are actually starting for their club team? Probably a fair few are not getting first team football (l haven't checked).

To be up there challenging is a nice change.

[Cookie]

Originally Posted by redinsaudi

Never really liked Giggs as he always put club before country..

As he should....
Always a Wrexham fan first. Wales after.