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Old 17th October 2020, 10.01:32   #41-0 (permalink)
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Thomas has gone through a host of clubs in the last 6 years, never staying long.

Fact - the most goals he has ever scored at one club (Solihull Moors) in one stay is a mere FOUR goals - and he took 25 games to do that.

The stats alone should have set alarm bells ringing - he is a striker and they are needed in the final third to score goals - he might have other attributes but is it any wonder we can hardly score a goal.
The thing is, that season he bagged 4 goals, he was playing up front as part of a two. The lad playing in that front two managed to bag 29 goals that season. I'm guessing Thomas had a lot of assists and made things happen to Yusif to bag that many goals.
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The thing is, that season he bagged 4 goals, he was playing up front as part of a two. The lad playing in that front two managed to bag 29 goals that season. I'm guessing Thomas had a lot of assists and made things happen to Yusif to bag that many goals.
I don’t think Thomas had many assists, have you seen him play? He can’t control a ball and second touch is always a tackle.
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Two words for anyone suggesting our lack of goals scoring prowess is down to anything other than coaching and tactics

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I think you are wrong, goal scoring isnt something that can be coached, its about instinct, quick mind, calmness when a chance comes and alot of self belief that when a chance goes begging, you keep getting in the right areas and make sure you take the next one. Finding one at NL level is never easy and if they have proved themselves they are snapped up or even if they show a few months of promise, clubs higher up the pyramid want to give them a chance. We have got to hope, now Yussuf and Ponticelli are returning to fitness, they can start to consistently score the goals we need
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Not necessarily - when discussing cup giant killings how often was it said that to have any chance of a win against a team from higher up the pyramid a team (like Wrexham) has to match the opposition with effort, eagerness, intensity and a never say die attitude - some just don't fit the criteria for the cut and thrust of the National League - eventually over a season quality and better players should shine through and give you more wins and points than the rest - but first and foremost you have to graft for every minute of the 90 and more.

Supporters are generally well informed - those who watch live matches don't take long to suss a player out - I cannot give Redmond any plaudits for looking better than some in a pre season friendly v a second string Salford City. At least Akil Wright had a go - yet to see anything worth persevering with in Redmond. Out of the midfielders currently in the match day squad who would people realistically drop and discard to give him a place - squad cover at best until his contract expires or the revolution is confirmed.
I was actually referring to the ones teeing off on Jordan Davies on Monday in particular and the people rushing to set up the circular firing squad after one bad match after four matches in all.

I think this team is much better than the team Bryan Hughes assembled last year and Dean Keates deserves a chance to make this work. If he can't, move him on and bring someone else in. But I think it's just way too early to start running around shouting the sky is falling quite yet.

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I think you are wrong, goal scoring isnt something that can be coached, its about instinct, quick mind, calmness when a chance comes and alot of self belief that when a chance goes begging, you keep getting in the right areas and make sure you take the next one. Finding one at NL level is never easy and if they have proved themselves they are snapped up or even if they show a few months of promise, clubs higher up the pyramid want to give them a chance. We have got to hope, now Yussuf and Ponticelli are returning to fitness, they can start to consistently score the goals we need

The fact that boden's strike rate is roughly 1 in 3 since 2013, but 1 in 10 for us suggests otherwise
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The fact that boden's strike rate is roughly 1 in 3 since 2013, but 1 in 10 for us suggests otherwise
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True, but Bodem had fitness issues early season with us then his better displays were playing a bit deeper as a provider for Quiggley.
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I was actually referring to the ones teeing off on Jordan Davies on Monday in particular and the people rushing to set up the circular firing squad after one bad match after four matches in all.

I think this team is much better than the team Bryan Hughes assembled last year and Dean Keates deserves a chance to make this work. If he can't, move him on and bring someone else in. But I think it's just way too early to start running around shouting the sky is falling quite yet.
I think that is a good post. Monday was a poor performance. However we should have won. We missed one sitter that i might have headed in. We missed another really good chance. We were denied a stone wall penalty. They did not create a great deal and to be fair the goal they scored from was a well times run to meet an excellent pass. Yes Jordan Davies was at fault for the goal and we were also lucky to get away with his very poor headed clearance. However he is a good creative player. I would agree that perhaps he is playing in the wrong position to get the best out of his undoubted ability. However to get back on topic. I have been disappointed with Devonte he also has a lot of ability but does not seem to affect games enough for me.

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True, but Bodem had fitness issues early season with us then his better displays were playing a bit deeper as a provider for Quiggley.
I think you are letting him off the hook to easily there, but I agree his better displays were deeper
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I don't believe Redmond has helped himself a great deal but Dean doesn't have the management skills to either support him at the club or encourage him to try and build a career elsewhere. At this level he is not lacking in skill but appears ill at ease with attitude and commitment.
Come on Dean, make decisions and give him a chance either here or elsewhere.
totally agree , give the lad a chance or move him on .
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