I won't vote for the deal...as it stands.

[Hamilton Pathetic]

Where to start in response?

You have stated that you hold the Trust in high esteem and this view has coloured your attitude to the flimsy’ bid. I will just raise one point, if the bid is rejected, you can expect the Trust’s membership to fall and with it the amount of contributions it receives. Add to this the number of non member fans who will walk away from the club and you will find that Wrexham’s position in the National League will be unsustainable. In fact they may be unable to meet the £100,000 P.a. ground rental, never mind field a full time team.

I’m sure others will address other points in your post.

[curly]

I think the major flaw in this argument is the many people like myself who don't want the club to just survive but actually prosper, something the Trust can't deliver.

[Royal welsh red]

Plus the rent for the ground nicely brushed over.
That’s the ground secured 100% guaranteed without begging for money every season. Then the investment they’re putting in and all the money from advertising, sponsors and real business people running the merchandise etc.

Stop clutching at straws, no one cares what you’re voting.

[standman]

Originally Posted by Funny_Old_Game

Stopped reading at the thread title.

A desperate last gasp attempt from an LJ stooge, you love to see it.

The majority of the fan base don’t want them anywhere near anymore all they have delivered is failure, dishonesty and shite service at all levels. They either can’t or don’t want to even update fans details on the data base.

[jacthelad]

Cany be arsed reading. Hope its a joke thread. If not open your eyes. We're going nowhere but down or bust as it stands
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[standman]

They so deluded they still won’t admit that fans are walking away by the hundreds and if this fails it’s the end of Wrexham fc as we know it and the blame will lie with each of them.

[Haruki]

You seem to have swallowed up the clubs financial projections without seeing the glaring mistakes in them.
1) The assumption that paying spectators return in January is balmy given England has gone into a months lockdown as predictions were for thousands of lives lost a day. There won’t be lessening of restrictions in January will there
2) the assumption that streaming income is based on the Boreham Wood game which a) had a novelty factor, b) Many have been turned off by the AI robot, c) the product from Keates and co is horrendous
3) of this deal does not proceed fans will leave this club in droves

[bowler]

Originally Posted by Congy Red

*Note : Please direct all outright abuse and the clever snide remarks this post will inevitably cause at ME only. This board is filled with posts that are abusive to anyone like me who loves The Trust. Its unfair that they may get more abuse because of my opinion. Thankyou.

I have no idea if anyone else holds The Trust in the high esteem that I do, but if anyone else does then take heart, you are not alone.

I suspect many supporters are wrapped up in a short moment in time where; we're doing badly on the pitch, some people will feel the current board members are serving us badly, and we have a potential investor. I would ask those supporters to remember the good times under The Trust, which will inevitably come again with patience.

Looking forward to the vote: We are being asked to vote on a very flimsy bid. We can look forward to an exciting presentation, but please remember negotiations resulted in the WST "Information Pack for WST members". This is the concrete proposal. What we hear next will be aspiration, and more worryingly, it will be statements the bidders were unwilling to have placed in the 'Information pack'.

The Information pack puts to bed an outright lie, repeatedley stated on RP. The lie being that the Club will fold without investment. The Pack states

" We are sure that if we had to continue on that basis we would be able to carry on. If the football Gods smile on us we may even achieve our objective of a return to the Football League. We should all be incredibly proud of what we have achieved over the past nine years, it is absolutely amazing."

The figures in the pack support this, please ignore misinformation on this.

The figures also put the current bid in better context, its pretty measly. Trust members put money into the club every year, it varies but I think £200,000 is a good guess. The Information pack alos estimartes that volunteers put in another £200,000 of free labour. This investment is EVERY year, and its as secure as any investment can be. So, ignoring people like me, who are MORE likely to support the club, and attend games BECAUSE it a Trust, The Trust invests £400,000 per year EVERY year. Thats a solid commitment, and the proposed DOCUMENTED commitment in comparison is £2 million ONCE (plus rent on the ground).

A fair yardstick for Clubs that have blasted their way out of this Division with money is ; a PLAYING BUDGET of £2m PER YEAR. It worked for Forest Green and Fleetwood after a few years, it failed for Fylde. But that is what's needed to be top of the financial pile.

RP posts have frequently used a 'Crystal Ball' comparison to reject the argument we don't know who comes after R&R. The argument is imcomplete. I KNOW who isn't likely to be a bidder after they have gone. It's the Trust, and why won't they bid? Firstly they probably won't have funds to rescue the club again, and more importantly the people of the Town won't fall for the assumption that other supporters had the the clubs Best Interests at heart. Why would you buy an asset for the community, to have it sold for £1 again? Why fight in the Courts? Why march? Why dig deep in your pockets?

If R&R genuinely have the Community's interest at heart they will modify their bid so The Trust has first refusal to re-purchase, at a fair price.

I will vote for their bid then. And maybe over 75% of Trust Members will too.

Sorry but I do think your deluded the trust is finished, kaput, I cannot wait fotr the new beginning.

[jase1runner]

I am a member and, of course, will be voting for the deal. When it goes through the first thing I will do is stop paying my standard order to the trust. It needs to be wound up as soon as possible, fund raising can then revert back to the supporter association.