Racecourse

[International]

Originally Posted by Colonel D

Who actually owns the Turf now ?

Marstons Pub Company

[Colonel D]

So any involvement would have to involve Marstons unless they sold it to us , but after being shafted by Hamilton on the ground they will be more careful in future.

[Back of the Kop]

Originally Posted by Colonel D

So any involvement would have to involve Marstons unless they sold it to us , but after being shafted by Hamilton on the ground they will be more careful in future.

What do we need permission from Marston's for ? We aren't developing The Turf are we ?

[Mr Wonderful]

Originally Posted by eastsussex

I am not sure about the earliest internal photos Mr W- perhaps Wayne could provide more information about this, but the history of The Turf is as follows.

I believe that The Turf Hotel is now the oldest public house at any sport stadium in the World.

Thank you Mr Wrexham!
It’s fair to say that you continue to surprise me with your depth & breadth of your knowledge of our club.
If anyone is ever deserving of an honorary award like ‘club historian’ or the like, then it is clearly you ES.....

[Alan Attack]

Originally Posted by Welsh Kiwi

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealWelshWayne View Post
After reading the Wrexham.com article about LDP2 and its lack of support from councillors and the establishing inspectorate, is it a good idea to lobby about getting the racecourse included again?

I don't think it was included in ldp2.



Have always believed the Racecourse holds so much heritage and is a huge asset to the football club as its spiritual home. Of course it needs a lot of work doing to it, to get it fit for purpose by todays standards of modern stadia, but with solid investment, the character and history it will retain, as well keeping the memories of some incredible games on that turf intact, would in my view far outway any other thoughts to build a new stadium.

That was the reason I put in so much time and energy a decade ago, to help push the Red Passion petition that seeked to get the Racecourse ground notated into the Local Development Plan as a recreational area solely for sport. It was also to remove any risk of Mr Moss or Mr Roberts doing anything untoward with the ground after our experience with H&G.

Quay Red, Wrexham Councils Executive board did designate the Racecourse as a protected site for sports and recreation in the LDP 1 (March 2012) along with three other sites, as part of the LDP1 they submitted to WAG. But it was subsequently withdrawn because of the wider concerns by the Welsh Assembly's Planning inspector. So the protection didn't become effective.

Am now too far away to be involved in any more lobbying for LDP 2 (2013-28). I have also not read LDP 2 to check relevant clauses, but would have thought that protection would have been logically carried forward by Wrexham Council as part of LDP 2.

If it hasn't been and it needs a new round of local lobbying then am sure Welsh Wayne is more than capable of getting it going.

Policy CF3 of the emerging Local Development Plan (LDP 2)states:

The continued use of sports stadia, including the Racecourse Stadium, the North Wales Tennis Centre, the Queensway Athletic Stadium and Bangor on Dee racecourse will be safeguarded and any development which would result in the loss of all or part of the principal use of the site for other uses will not be permitted. Development which enhances existing facilities and the introduction of additional uses complementary to the site's principal use are supported.

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by Colonel D

Who actually owns the Turf now ?

I thought Tina did and now she is married to Robin they own it jointly

[TheRealWelshWayne]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

Policy CF3 of the emerging Local Development Plan (LDP 2)states:

The continued use of sports stadia, including the Racecourse Stadium, the North Wales Tennis Centre, the Queensway Athletic Stadium and Bangor on Dee racecourse will be safeguarded and any development which would result in the loss of all or part of the principal use of the site for other uses will not be permitted. Development which enhances existing facilities and the introduction of additional uses complementary to the site's principal use are supported.

When did that get inserted back?

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by TheRealWelshWayne

When did that get inserted back?

The word 'emerging ' in the title gives it away.
LDP not yet adopted!

[TheRealWelshWayne]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

The word 'emerging ' in the title gives it away.
LDP not yet adopted!

It's not going to be adopted, everyone apart from Isted wants it binned and to start again. That has huge implications for planning applications.

I just don't remember it being brought back in. It was omitted from LDP2 about two and half years ago. Great that it's back, although meaningless under the current stand off.