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WAFCExile 23rd November 2020 20.29:38

Where are they now?
 
As we approach the end of the Trust's ownership, I thought it would be interesting to see how the other clubs in the National League have fared during our time under Trust ownership.

Believe it or not, out of the 24 clubs in the division since the trust took over (2011/12), we're the only one who hasn't been promoted and/or relegated since.
[LIST][*]One is in the Championship (Luton).[*]Three are in League One (Newport, Lincoln, Fleetwood).[*]Five are in League Two (Mansfield, Cambridge, Forest Green, Grimsby, Barrow).[*]One is in the National League (Stockport) but spent six seasons in the National League North.[*]Eleven are in the National League North/South (Kidderminster, Telford, Southport, Ebbsfleet, Gateshead, Darlington, Alfreton, York City, Bath City, Braintree, Kettering).[*]Two are in the Southern Football League (Tamworth, Hayes and Yeading).[/LIST]
Of the nine who have been promoted, at least four have had very significant cash injections (Newport, Fleetwood, Forest Green, Barrow). Cambridge sold their stadium for £3.5m. Two other clubs had smaller cash injections (Lincoln, Mansfield).

The standout, for me, is Luton Town. True, they had the advantage of large attendances and a strong heritage in the higher divisions. But they won promotion as a part-community-owned club, and generally did things the right way. Sadly, they're the exception, not the rule. There are VERY few of these clubs who have been successful on the pitch and off it – which proves what a difficult job we had to get out of this league.

DenbighRed 23rd November 2020 20.33:45

Re: Where are they now?
 
Newport are in League Two.

Interesting nonetheless.

podders 23rd November 2020 20.47:18

Re: Where are they now?
 
Bristol rovers are in league one

bennosboots 23rd November 2020 20.52:46

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Missing Tranmere too. Been league one and back down to league two

Todd Sweeney 23rd November 2020 20.56:36

Re: Where are they now?
 
A good read. Rushden & Diamonds, Darlington and Chester City all went bust and subsequently reformed at one level or another.

riccardo 23rd November 2020 20.57:05

Re: Where are they now?
 
Tranmere were in league one in 2011/12...

pawn star 23rd November 2020 20.58:11

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Wimbledon and Burton are both in league one as well

bennosboots 23rd November 2020 20.58:29

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Sorry mid read the o/p

howardrd 23rd November 2020 20.59:35

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Very interesting read.. wonder how this will compare in 4 years time?

International 23rd November 2020 21.00:31

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[QUOTE=bennosboots;2411763]Missing Tranmere too. Been league one and back down to league two[/QUOTE]

Also missing Chester. Admittedly easy to forget :D

pawn star 23rd November 2020 21.02:50

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Stevenage Salford and Crawley all in league two

riccardo 23rd November 2020 21.04:22

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[QUOTE=International;2411769]Also missing Chester. Admittedly easy to forget :D[/QUOTE]

They were in the Northern Premier that season, which they won coincidentally! (The only thing they have won for around half a century...)

riccardo 23rd November 2020 21.05:01

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I wish people would read the original post before commenting!

FISHNETS 23rd November 2020 21.20:24

Re: Where are they now?
 
So 10 teams have have done better than us since that time if you include Stockport who are above us in the league at the moment. That puts us 11th..and our current position is??

MJ6987 23rd November 2020 21.23:30

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Obviously we're the longest serving member of the National League / Conference at the moment. I wonder whether we've got the most consecutive seasons in its history?

tokyored 23rd November 2020 21.27:39

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[QUOTE=MJ6987;2411779]Obviously we're the longest serving member of the National League / Conference at the moment. I wonder whether we've got the most consecutive seasons in its history?[/QUOTE]

Stevenage were in it for longer, but they won the league and were denied promotion.

Whitey 23rd November 2020 21.33:08

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[QUOTE=riccardo;2411771]They were in the Northern Premier that season, which they won coincidentally! (The only thing they have won for around half a century...)[/QUOTE]

And you've won....

joe 23rd November 2020 21.37:51

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The OP’s point is teams in this league only during the 11/12 season, otherwise the list would be massive.

Luton are a much bigger club than us who have top flight history and have won a major honour, Kenilworth Road has held them back. They were always naturally going to go back up the divisions once they sorted themselves off the pitch.

tokyored 23rd November 2020 21.38:33

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[QUOTE=Whitey;2411782]And you've won....[/QUOTE]

How easily people forget the Isle of Man International Football Festival trophy...

x4!!

Whitey 23rd November 2020 21.41:50

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[QUOTE=tokyored;2411785]How easily people forget the Isle of Man International Football Festival trophy...

x4!![/QUOTE]

:hurray::hurray::hurray::hurray:

Inside Left 23rd November 2020 22.37:39

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[QUOTE=tokyored;2411785]How easily people forget the Isle of Man International Football Festival trophy...

x4!![/QUOTE]

The good old kipper cup !!!!

dragonspark 24th November 2020 05.39:24

Re: Where are they now?
 
the Welsh cup the most times, which chester used to enter,

moynkeepthefaith 24th November 2020 07.20:55

Re: Where are they now?
 
[QUOTE=Whitey;2411782]And you've won....[/QUOTE]

The backing of Holywood millionaires so see you later sucker.

Aussie_Red 24th November 2020 07.29:07

Re: Where are they now?
 
[QUOTE=WAFCExile;2411758]As we approach the end of the Trust's ownership, I thought it would be interesting to see how the other clubs in the National League have fared during our time under Trust ownership.

Believe it or not, out of the 24 clubs in the division since the trust took over (2011/12), we're the only one who hasn't been promoted and/or relegated since.
[LIST][*]One is in the Championship (Luton).[*]Three are in League One (Newport, Lincoln, Fleetwood).[*]Five are in League Two (Mansfield, Cambridge, Forest Green, Grimsby, Barrow).[*]One is in the National League (Stockport) but spent six seasons in the National League North.[*]Eleven are in the National League North/South (Kidderminster, Telford, Southport, Ebbsfleet, Gateshead, Darlington, Alfreton, York City, Bath City, Braintree, Kettering).[*]Two are in the Southern Football League (Tamworth, Hayes and Yeading).[/LIST][/QUOTE]

I was surprised by that, so I decided to put my anorak on and ran some other stats - of all the teams in the Conference Premier each year Wrexham have been in it [B]from 2008 to last season[/B], Wrexham really are the only team to have not been promoted or relegated at all. Everyone else has gone up or down, or both in that time.
Of the teams promoted up back into the EFL since we've been stuck down here;[LIST][*]1 is currently tier 2 / Championship - Luton[*]6 are currently tier 3 / League 1 - AFC Wimbledon, Bristol Rovers, Burton Albion, Fleetwood, Lincoln, Oxford United[*]13 are currently tier 4 / League 2 - Barrow, Cambridge, Cheltenham, Crawley, Forest Green, Grimsby, Harrogate, Orient, Mansfield, Newport, Salford, Stevenage, Tranmere[*]2 are right back where they started tier 5 / Conference Premier - Barnet, Torquay[*]1 is below in tier 6 / Conference North - York City[*]and 1 sadly is gone altogether - Macclesfield[/LIST]

redavid 24th November 2020 07.55:29

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[QUOTE=Whitey;2411782]And you've won....[/QUOTE]

The Johnsons paint thingy and Fa Trophy :hurray:

moynkeepthefaith 24th November 2020 07.59:13

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Is masochism engrained in Wrexham supporters ? We are on the cusp of a brave new era and we want to put on our hair shirts and self flagellate.

Lets clear out the misery and the poisoned dwarf and move on for Christ's sake.

redavid 24th November 2020 07.59:49

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:D[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2411802]The backing of Holywood millionaires so see you later sucker.[/QUOTE]

:D:hurray::hurray::hurray: Brilliant !!


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