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Old 21st December 2020, 07.04:09   #28-0 (permalink)
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Keates certainly won't know of such talented lads, he's been called out on not attending a single youth game. Of course he's thrown his toys out the pram again.
His lack of coaching skills meant He had no time or knowledge when it come to youngsters, add to the ones just mentioned Leo Smith , and Doug Tharme , when those two got a game hardly put a foot wrong , yet Keates did1nt give them a chance
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His lack of coaching skills meant He had no time or knowledge when it come to youngsters, add to the ones just mentioned Leo Smith , and Doug Tharme , when those two got a game hardly put a foot wrong , yet Keates did1nt give them a chance
Those players aren't the best examples considering their careers are below where Wrexham are!

I think this calling Keates a bully needs clarification. I was watching Graham Alexander using some quite unsavory language to his Salford players last night on Class of '92. Could quite easily be described as "bullying" or simply the way you speak to blokes in their 20's who, let's be honest, are quite used to that from a manager.
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If its true Keates hasn't watched one youth game at since he's been back then thats a disgrace and is just another example of how backwards this club is at the moment.

Don't forget he was a WST appointment and if true has been allowed to basically do as he pleases. So they did not learn anything from the Gary Mills disaster. Further proof fan ownership has been an almighty failure.
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Those players aren't the best examples considering their careers are below where Wrexham are!

I think this calling Keates a bully needs clarification. I was watching Graham Alexander using some quite unsavory language to his Salford players last night on Class of '92. Could quite easily be described as "bullying" or simply the way you speak to blokes in their 20's who, let's be honest, are quite used to that from a manager.
They are where they are because of the lack of decent coaching , both had a lot of potential that should have been worked on , and i think the Board wanted all funds to go in to first team , to try get out of this league , But bloody failed miserably , and wasted most of the funds available to them . sad really .
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From what I have seen of DK I doubt he has the passion to actually 'bully' players. I would hasten to add that it is a very serious allegation.
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They are where they are because of the lack of decent coaching , both had a lot of potential that should have been worked on , and i think the Board wanted all funds to go in to first team , to try get out of this league , But bloody failed miserably , and wasted most of the funds available to them . sad really .
Players ultimately find their level. I'm not saying our coaching set up is amazing. Far from it however, I feel uneasy about saying these lads would have made it had the coaching been better.
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From what I have seen of DK I doubt he has the passion to actually 'bully' players. I would hasten to add that it is a very serious allegation.
He's got form though, he was at it at Rhyl when he was there. They hated him. Didn't he threaten a referee while he was there too?
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Louis Lloyd also made his 1st team debut for Shrewsbury
Luke Robinson made his 1st team debut for Wigan

Wigan spent 4 months trying to get someone at Wrexham to contact them but no one could be bothered.
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If its true Keates hasn't watched one youth game at since he's been back then thats a disgrace and is just another example of how backwards this club is at the moment.

Don't forget he was a WST appointment and if true has been allowed to basically do as he pleases. So they did not learn anything from the Gary Mills disaster. Further proof fan ownership has been an almighty failure.
It is true. A parent of a YT player even called Keates out on it publicly on social media. The parent was at every youth game, Keates wasn't at a single one. That youth player is now at a league 1 club.

Complaints have also gone into the club but nothing done
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