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Old 4th January 2021, 13.18:53   #127-0 (permalink)
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Honestly can’t believe that stuff he wrote! Genuinely think he’s on the wind up right?
Old 4th January 2021, 13.55:47   #128-0 (permalink)
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Mark Griffiths' response to the Leader article. Another Keates and WST propaganda piece.

"They got us into a seriously competitive place before Keates left for Walsall (4 wins for the last 15 games and then two of the current coaching team remained and we imploded), they kept us up last year (funny way to say "they showed no improvement from the footgolf bloke even after being given additional money") and now face the combined challenges of a new squad and a stop-start season. (Boohoo they had the freedom to sign whoever they wanted and our season is affected in the same way as everyone else's) They can’t be judged as failures (Yes they can), they can fairly be judged as doing well enough to stick with. (Let's keep clapping at the worst football we've ever seen with a manager that would never have been allowed to return if we'd have had representitives at the club with any self-pride)
Mark is entitled to his opinion, just like everyone else.

Personally, I think he is far too optimistic and lacks critical judgement. Keates and Co should have gotten us into the POs and possibly promoted in his first season. But he decided to move to Walsall at a very critical time for us, and his remaining understudies made a right pig’s ear of the remaining games, which caused us to drop away.

Spencer then compounded his HR mismanagement following Rickett’s departure to Shrewsbury: the Barrow will he won’t he? Bryan Hughes’ promotion from obscurity; and then the lazy reappointment of Keates after he failed at Walsall. Last season was dreadful; and this season seems equally bad. We are playing [pissed up] pub football and not picking up enough points. The entertainment factor under Keates and Co is well below zero. So much so, I get more enjoyment watching the bloody ‘Masked Singer’ with Mrs PD than watching the games via video.

If Mark is happy with this standard, that is up to him. I personally think it’s piss poor bollox we have to endure due to the Board’s run of cock-ups. If R&R and their new management team cannot see this, then I fear for the worse. Thankfully, I give them the credit for being savvy, sentient beings who can see through this pro-Keates bollox.

What if they cannot? We are simply screwed, regardless how many dollars R&R pump into the business.

The current model is screwed. My advice is: film it; bin it; change it; and bring some joy, hope and belief back to the Racecourse. Duw do we need it!
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Old 4th January 2021, 14.09:18   #129-0 (permalink)
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flip me this is scary , Keates being allowed money, please no, the man can not be trusted with one single penny he hasnt a clue and as for MG the biggest brown noser out there he really is making himself look an absolute

ROB & RYAN DONT LET KEATES HAVE A PENNY JUST SACK THE USELESS LITTLE GIT
Old 4th January 2021, 14.15:54   #130-0 (permalink)
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I'm just saying in general how bad things were start of last season. Keates didn't do as well as I thought and some games were embarrassing (0-0 at home just before lockdown can't remember who against) but we got some good wins like Bromley away. He did just enough to turn it around. Unfortunately he's not delivered this season that's clear enough to see
Did he do enough to turn it around? He took us to the bottom of the table and only 1 point above the drop zone when the season was ended.

Your right though he hasn’t delivered this season and I’m hard pressed to think of a more unpopular manager than now.
Old 4th January 2021, 14.34:23   #131-0 (permalink)
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Don't bother reading that tripe anymore
^This^
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Old 4th January 2021, 15.06:53   #132-0 (permalink)
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Did he do enough to turn it around? He took us to the bottom of the table and only 1 point above the drop zone when the season was ended.

Your right though he hasn’t delivered this season and I’m hard pressed to think of a more unpopular manager than now.
Just about yeah. Didn't cover himself in glory I will admit. If I had to put a bet on it I'd say he would have kept us up
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Mark Griffiths' response to the Leader article. Another Keates and WST propaganda piece.

"They got us into a seriously competitive place before Keates left for Walsall (4 wins for the last 15 games and then two of the current coaching team remained and we imploded), they kept us up last year (funny way to say "they showed no improvement from the footgolf bloke even after being given additional money") and now face the combined challenges of a new squad and a stop-start season. (Boohoo they had the freedom to sign whoever they wanted and our season is affected in the same way as everyone else's) They can’t be judged as failures (Yes they can), they can fairly be judged as doing well enough to stick with. (Let's keep clapping at the worst football we've ever seen with a manager that would never have been allowed to return if we'd have had representitives at the club with any self-pride)
That website is as creepy as that one John Mills has for his ‘articles’.
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Don't bother reading that tripe anymore
Totally agree, it’s all a pile of horses**t; but the likes of my old man do read it, and the tripe that Rich Williams writes, and takes it as gospel. Same as the official website match reports. “ Mark Griffiths says we had hard luck; Rich Williams says we were the better team; the website says the referee cost us again “. And I find myself telling him I wouldn’t believe everything that you read from the likes of them, it’s propaganda on a massive scale, aimed at those who don’t come on here, who dont know what really goes on.
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It is just that , propaganda I'm afraid , very sad really , as if trying to impress or con certain people into a sense of really things are OK . I get the feeling a certain person encourages it .
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