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Old 7th January 2021, 12.33:27   #163-0 (permalink)
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In Keates first period teams began to suss us out as we only ever played one way. Keates never showed any different approach.

Hence why the first half of the season was good and we got to a high position. Once teams started to counter our style of play we started to draw and lose more games as we just had problems scoring. our game was built on defence and scoring the odd goal to win. If we didn't score first, we were in trouble.

Kind of like now. He doesn't appear to have learnt anything in the intervening period.
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Its mute point now but we were 4th in the league when DK left but as everyone was aware we were lacking upfront, both Holroyd and Boden never got going, but he had spent the biggest part of his budget on getting a defence that would stand us in god stead for a couple of seasons and stopped us being the soft touch Mills had created.

Thist time sorting that defence has so far proved far more difficult to sort and until that becomes alot meaner and consistent, we are not going to see the best of any attacking options, but DK will be judged on this season's results and performances, regardless of opinions about his previous performance and leaving the club.

A play off position is the minimum currently expected with what he inherited last season and likely budget given so currently it's not good enough and time may be running out as the Takeover is going to mean a whole different ball game.
I vaguely recall an interview with Darlington way back where he talked adopting the Wales philosophy to Wrexham. Sorting the defence out first before then focussing on attack.

Sadly, after all this years, it feels like we're still waiting to sort out the attack...whilst the defence has regressed anyway.
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In Keates first period teams began to suss us out as we only ever played one way. Keates never showed any different approach.

Hence why the first half of the season was good and we got to a high position. Once teams started to counter our style of play we started to draw and lose more games as we just had problems scoring. our game was built on defence and scoring the odd goal to win. If we didn't score first, we were in trouble.

Kind of like now. He doesn't appear to have learnt anything in the intervening period.
I dont think there is a lot to suss out, we have conceded far too easy, far too often this season and when we have created we have missed our chances. That said we are only a few points off the top 3 or 4 so if we can tighten up and bring in a couple of players to bolster our attacking options, we could start to challenge.
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I dont think there is a lot to suss out, we have conceded far too easy, far too often this season and when we have created we have missed our chances. That said we are only a few points off the top 3 or 4 so if we can tighten up and bring in a couple of players to bolster our attacking options, we could start to challenge.
We are as close 20th as we are to 3rd, points wise. We carry on with Keates all season, I would expect us to finish closer to 20th than 3rd also. No matter how much money is thrown at him, he wont change and isn't good enough.
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I dont think there is a lot to suss out, we have conceded far too easy, far too often this season and when we have created we have missed our chances. That said we are only a few points off the top 3 or 4 so if we can tighten up and bring in a couple of players to bolster our attacking options, we could start to challenge.
Not with Keates in charge we won't. You should have seen enough by now to over ride any blind pie in the sky optimism, surely?

He's already brought in his own squad. Throwing more money and players at this won't solve anything.
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We are as close 20th as we are to 3rd, points wise. We carry on with Keates all season, I would expect us to finish closer to 20th than 3rd also. No matter how much money is thrown at him, he wont change and isn't good enough.
I would put a small wager that PPG (points per game) DK's team ends up closer to 3rd than 20th, despite a few of our rivals currently strengthening their squads.

Even though anything short of the play offs is not acceptable for us and performances are not anywhere near where they need to be, I don't share the belief that DK will take this squad backwards.
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I would put a small wager that PPG (points per game) DK's team ends up closer to 3rd than 20th, despite a few of our rivals currently strengthening their squads.

Even though anything short of the play offs is not acceptable for us and performances are not anywhere near where they need to be, I don't share the belief that DK will take this squad backwards.
LOL . Imagine believing that. Frightening.
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LOL . Imagine believing that. Frightening.
Are you up for a small bet then £20 or £30 on (PPG placings closer to 3rd or 20th) ?
Old 7th January 2021, 15.20:30   #171-0 (permalink)
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I'm not sure why people are being so harsh on Keates. He hasn't lost a game for ten days now and I reckon that run could continue for at least another nine.

Not bad when you think about it.
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