Funding from the National League part 3(or lack of)

[t1954]

The Welsh Govt thought it was not necessary to give additional funding to Wrexham AFC re FOI by Wrexham.com this morning.

"Based on the fact that Welsh clubs in the English pyramids have received funding through other avenues – which means they are treated consistently as their counterparts and competitors – there is little need for additional funding support from the Welsh Government to the exiled clubs at this stage".

Says it all really we are outcasts by the Football authorities in Wales and England and we are not playing on a level playing field.

[fluffysheepsupporter]

Originally Posted by t1954

The Welsh Govt thought it was not necessary to give additional funding to Wrexham AFC re FOI by Wrexham.com this morning.

"Based on the fact that Welsh clubs in the English pyramids have received funding through other avenues – which means they are treated consistently as their counterparts and competitors – there is little need for additional funding support from the Welsh Government to the exiled clubs at this stage".

Says it all really we are outcasts by the Football authorities in Wales and England and we are not playing on a level playing field.

But the rich film stars have said they don't need funding.

[Vorporix]

It's not like we pay any tax towards the Welsh Government is it!

Consistently amongst the lowest funded councils in Wales and now this.

One could get the impression they don't like us in Cardiff.

[Foxy]

So Lesley Griffiths’ letter worked then.

It’s not a Welsh Government. It has no interest in us. Perhaps we should rename ourselves Cardiff Airport.

Remember this in the May elections.

[t1954]

Originally Posted by Foxy

So Lesley Griffiths’ letter worked then.

It’s not a Welsh Government. It has no interest in us. Remember this in the May elections.

Don't worry another has just gone to her. I am furious that we are not treated as equals. I know in a way it is not my business, but like thousand I am a Wrexham fan through and through and only want fairness.

Your point is valid though.

[TheRealWelshWayne]

Welsh Government thought there was "little need for additional funding support" to exiled clubs like Wrexham AFC due to UK Gov pot of money - Wrexham.com

full article above...

From the FOI...

"There are five ‘exile’ clubs that play under the English football system. These include EFL Championship sides Cardiff FC and Swansea AFC. Newport County play in EFL League Two, and both Wrexham AFC (Vanarama National League – tier five) and Merthyr Tydfil FC also play in the English system.

Football returned at professional level in April 2020 with EFL Championship cross-border competition (Cardiff City and Swansea City). In addition to those two clubs, Newport County and Wrexham have also returned to play in the 2020-21 season, as well as Cardiff City Ladies in England. Merthyr Town AFC, who play in the English Southern League Premier Division South, have been mothballed for the 2020-21 season to avoid bankruptcy. They will be allowed back into the league next season.

In October, the UK Government announced that National League football clubs would receive £10m funding as part of a unique partnership with The National Lottery. The support will benefit the 66 clubs in the fifth and six tiers of English football, so that they can continue to play behind closed doors after the return of fans was paused due to rising infection rates. Wrexham AFC, as a club in the Vanarama National League (tier five) has received £95k per month. The money for the initiative is coming from a National Lottery promotional fund. It is not being funded by money allocated for National Lottery Good Causes or by Camelot.

The £10m announcement above triggered a £750k funding award via The National Lottery directly to the FAW and has been distributed to clubs at levels one and two in the Welsh pyramid. The £750k Camelot money will be distributed as follows: Cymru Premier League (CPL) Clubs (12 x £50k = £600k); JD Cymru North Clubs (16 x £5k = £80k); and JD Cymru South Clubs (16 x £5k = £80k).

Based on the fact that Welsh clubs in the English pyramids have received funding through other avenues – which means they are treated consistently as their counterparts and competitors – there is little need for additional funding support from the Welsh Government to the exiled clubs at this stage"

So the Welsh government thought they were getting cash from another source, so focused their funds elsewhere. That's common sense.

Since then the budget happened. 300m to English sport meaning approx 19 million could be going to welsh sport.

[TheRealWelshWayne]

Originally Posted by Foxy

So Lesley Griffiths’ letter worked then.

It’s not a Welsh Government. It has no interest in us. Perhaps we should rename ourselves Cardiff Airport.

Remember this in the May elections.

Lesley Griffiths letter was a few months after.

[Rob]

"there is little need for additional funding support from the Welsh Government to the exiled clubs at this stage"

I would imagine that opens the door for WG to step in and balance up.

There are plenty of examples where entities that don't need public money have refused or returned it though.

To me, we should at least be offered it to refuse it

[t1954]

Originally Posted by TheRealWelshWayne

Welsh Government thought there was "little need for additional funding support" to exiled clubs like Wrexham AFC due to UK Gov pot of money - Wrexham.com

full article above...

From the FOI...

"There are five ‘exile’ clubs that play under the English football system. These include EFL Championship sides Cardiff FC and Swansea AFC. Newport County play in EFL League Two, and both Wrexham AFC (Vanarama National League – tier five) and Merthyr Tydfil FC also play in the English system.

Football returned at professional level in April 2020 with EFL Championship cross-border competition (Cardiff City and Swansea City). In addition to those two clubs, Newport County and Wrexham have also returned to play in the 2020-21 season, as well as Cardiff City Ladies in England. Merthyr Town AFC, who play in the English Southern League Premier Division South, have been mothballed for the 2020-21 season to avoid bankruptcy. They will be allowed back into the league next season.

In October, the UK Government announced that National League football clubs would receive £10m funding as part of a unique partnership with The National Lottery. The support will benefit the 66 clubs in the fifth and six tiers of English football, so that they can continue to play behind closed doors after the return of fans was paused due to rising infection rates. Wrexham AFC, as a club in the Vanarama National League (tier five) has received £95k per month. The money for the initiative is coming from a National Lottery promotional fund. It is not being funded by money allocated for National Lottery Good Causes or by Camelot.

The £10m announcement above triggered a £750k funding award via The National Lottery directly to the FAW and has been distributed to clubs at levels one and two in the Welsh pyramid. The £750k Camelot money will be distributed as follows: Cymru Premier League (CPL) Clubs (12 x £50k = £600k); JD Cymru North Clubs (16 x £5k = £80k); and JD Cymru South Clubs (16 x £5k = £80k).

Based on the fact that Welsh clubs in the English pyramids have received funding through other avenues – which means they are treated consistently as their counterparts and competitors – there is little need for additional funding support from the Welsh Government to the exiled clubs at this stage"

So the Welsh government thought they were getting cash from another source, so focused their funds elsewhere. That's common sense.

Since then the budget happened. 300m to English sport meaning approx 19 million could be going to welsh sport.

But is it not the responsibility of either the English or Welsh Sports Councils to see that we are not excluded, not just passed round. Needs sorting.