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Holtdragons · 20th March 2021, 15.09:34

The league need to decide what they are going to do about Dover and what is going to happen about point other teams have won or lost against them so everyone knows where they stand

short_gog · 20th March 2021, 16.02:55

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Originally Posted by Holtdragons

The league need to decide what they are going to do about Dover and what is going to happen about point other teams have won or lost against them so everyone knows where they stand

should be simple - two choices i can see 1) either expell them mid season and remove all points incurred against them, or 2) if they are to stay in the league, then the fixtures they don't fulfil should be a 4-0 win to the opposition, harsh on those who have played them already.

Whether they are expelled or fined or whatever is a seperate matter that maybe can wait, but that also needs resolving to ensure the points issue is resolved before the end of the season...... maybe not so simples afterall !

davewilli · 20th March 2021, 16.04:03

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Originally Posted by Holtdragons

The league need to decide what they are going to do about Dover and what is going to happen about point other teams have won or lost against them so everyone knows where they stand

I read this week Notts County were pushing for a decision. Obviously, having lost to Dover, its in their interest for most of their rivals to lose points.

the_holt_dragon · 20th March 2021, 16.07:45

I can’t see them doing anything but removing them and taking the points away from those who have played. I think that’s probably the fairest thing to do, despite it being to our disadvantage.

ITYAMMFSWC · 20th March 2021, 17.18:10

Agree the League need to make decision asap. They should have done so weeks ago.

As I understand it, the League have so far only charged Dover with not fulfilling the first couple of their missed fixtures dating back to the beginning of February. I imagine there needs to be a League hearing so Dover can answer the charges.

Dover will no doubt cite the pandemic as the justifiable cause, and that they have no money to fulfill these fixtures because of the switch from grants to loans, which I believe the League endorsed.

I think the only two practical options are to either expunge Dover's results or award wins to the opposing teams for any unfulfilled fixtures. If they go with awarding wins then it raises the question of the scores, say either 2-0 or 3-0.

The trouble is any decision would set a precedent, and may cause other clubs to do the same. Which is probably why the League have delayed doing anything. They're probably thinking 'keep kicking the can down the road and get as many remaining fixtures played as possible'.

But there'll come a point when they will have to make a decision. And knowing our luck, it'll be after the last round fixtures and they'll choose whichever option means we miss out on a play off place.

I reckon the matter of fines and/or expulsion is a separate issue, and I think either would be harsh given the exceptional circumstances.

COYR!!! In R&R we trust.

Wyn · 20th March 2021, 23.44:17

Catering for situations like this should be enshrined in the competitions terms and conditions, as should dealing with seasons that cannot be completed. That way no-one gets to manipulate or vote on outcomes biased by their own circumstances and in their own interests.

davewilli · 21st March 2021, 13.30:53

Dover Athletic taking legal advice over National League charges - The Non-League Football Paper
http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper...eague-charges/

barriewrex · 21st March 2021, 13.47:14

Award all teams due to play them 3pts simples.

WxmWynno · 21st March 2021, 14.22:51

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Award all teams due to play them 3pts simples.

Prefer this to points being deducted
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20th March 2021, 15.09:34	#1-0 (permalink)
Holtdragons Squad Player Joined: Feb 2009 Racecourse Spot: MRS Real Name: Barry Twitter: @	Dover The league need to decide what they are going to do about Dover and what is going to happen about point other teams have won or lost against them so everyone knows where they stand

20th March 2021, 16.07:45	#4-0 (permalink)
the_holt_dragon retired & running a pub Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: Dover I can’t see them doing anything but removing them and taking the points away from those who have played. I think that’s probably the fairest thing to do, despite it being to our disadvantage.

20th March 2021, 17.18:10	#5-0 (permalink)
ITYAMMFSWC Squad Player Joined: Aug 2011 Racecourse Spot: Upper Yale, Town End Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: Dover Agree the League need to make decision asap. They should have done so weeks ago. As I understand it, the League have so far only charged Dover with not fulfilling the first couple of their missed fixtures dating back to the beginning of February. I imagine there needs to be a League hearing so Dover can answer the charges. Dover will no doubt cite the pandemic as the justifiable cause, and that they have no money to fulfill these fixtures because of the switch from grants to loans, which I believe the League endorsed. I think the only two practical options are to either expunge Dover's results or award wins to the opposing teams for any unfulfilled fixtures. If they go with awarding wins then it raises the question of the scores, say either 2-0 or 3-0. The trouble is any decision would set a precedent, and may cause other clubs to do the same. Which is probably why the League have delayed doing anything. They're probably thinking 'keep kicking the can down the road and get as many remaining fixtures played as possible'. But there'll come a point when they will have to make a decision. And knowing our luck, it'll be after the last round fixtures and they'll choose whichever option means we miss out on a play off place. I reckon the matter of fines and/or expulsion is a separate issue, and I think either would be harsh given the exceptional circumstances. COYR!!! In R&R we trust. __________________ Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

20th March 2021, 23.44:17	#6-0 (permalink)
Wyn Club Captain Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: Dover Catering for situations like this should be enshrined in the competitions terms and conditions, as should dealing with seasons that cannot be completed. That way no-one gets to manipulate or vote on outcomes biased by their own circumstances and in their own interests.

21st March 2021, 13.30:53	#7-0 (permalink)
davewilli Taking coaching badges (info) Joined: May 2011 Racecourse Spot: mold road Real Name: dave williams Twitter: @	Re: Dover Dover Athletic taking legal advice over National League charges - The Non-League Football Paper http://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper...eague-charges/

21st March 2021, 13.47:14	#8-0 (permalink)
barriewrex Squad Player Joined: Oct 2013 Racecourse Spot: none given Real Name: barrie butler Twitter: @	Re: Dover Award all teams due to play them 3pts simples.