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Old 29th March 2021, 20.45:48   #19-0 (permalink)
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You said Keates knows nothing about football. Twice you've ignored that. As I said above Keates is getting a bounce from the takeover 100% and I don't think we'd be in the PO's if we were still Trust owned.
Now I agree it's the takeover but for the life of me I won't give Keates an ounce of credit cos he's still not a manager that convinces fans, he's not up to the job,and the players have taken it upon themselves to push forward as a team,answer me this if the trust where still in charge would we be where we are now?
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Both, refuelling coach should beginning to have an effect now too.
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Old 29th March 2021, 20.58:19   #21-0 (permalink)
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Now I agree it's the takeover but for the life of me I won't give Keates an ounce of credit cos he's still not a manager that convinces fans, he's not up to the job,and the players have taken it upon themselves to push forward as a team,answer me this if the trust where still in charge would we be where we are now?
Well said. Also if you had a chance of a share of £250K and the match bonus you’d play for a cardboard cut out. I like the way the club is now so professional the moment Harris left.
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Old 29th March 2021, 21.08:59   #22-0 (permalink)
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Think we'd played 23 games and 4 wins when Keates took over. Might be wrong but the players were shocking. No one knows what would have happened without Covid but it wasn't an easy job keeping us up
We had 5 wins from 15 before Keates took over

By the 'end' of the season we had 11 wins from 37 games. So 6 wins from 22 for Keates. A worse ratio.

Lainton, Jennings, Pearson, Young, Hooper, Grant, Summerfield, Lawlor, Tollitt, Mark Harris etc. More than enough quality in that squad.

Then add in the factor that Keates was given additional money and signed loads of players, Jay Harris, Ponticelli, Jarvis, Keilor-Dunn, Thompson, Tyler, Kennedy, Garratt, Horsefield and a couple more that I can't remember but showed no improvement.

Yet these myths still seem to follow Keates around
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We had 5 wins from 15 before Keates took over

By the 'end' of the season we had 11 wins from 37 games. So 6 wins from 22 for Keates. A worse ratio.

Lainton, Jennings, Pearson, Young, Hooper, Grant, Summerfield, Lawlor, Tollitt, Mark Harris etc. More than enough quality in that squad.

Then add in the factor that Keates was given additional money and signed loads of players, Jay Harris, Ponticelli, Jarvis, Keilor-Dunn, Thompson, Tyler, Kennedy, Garratt, Horsefield and a couple more that I can't remember but showed no improvement.

Yet these myths still seem to follow Keates around
Get over it and stop being so negative.
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Get over it and stop being so negative.
Its negative to talk about last season? We're not fan owned any more, we don't have to lie to each other about how we've previously performed any more

I'll be delighted if we go up free from the shackles of Spencer and Gavin as a proper football club

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Get over it and stop being so negative.
I'm not negative I just want Keates and his staff gone.
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Keates brought in a lot of new players this season and it takes time for a new team to gel.
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