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Old 7th April 2021, 17.24:53   #121-0 (permalink)
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Totally agree,except those still in contract, I'd get rid of the lot,if they are not good enough to get us promoted this year,why keep any,and I don't rate any of the players really,new broom sweeps clean as they say.
Iím pretty sympathetic to that argument. My only concern is that maybe Keates isnít a manager who can get the most out of players, so some may be better than they look.
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Old 7th April 2021, 17.47:57   #122-0 (permalink)
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We are lucky to have Laiton, French, Kelleher and Vassell. They are up there with the best in their position in this league. Do we really want to get rid of our best players? We are not far with what we have got, add quality to that team and you have a league winning squad. Get rid of all and bring in new players and start all over again doesnt always work. We need a squad of players that have been here longer than one season.
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Lainton is a good goalkeeper but if we are to keep him we need a better no.2 than Dibble.
Lainton would need a full medical too due to his injury record.
Surely the number one signing needs to be a number 9 - a Bowman or Quigley.
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We are lucky to have Laiton, French, Kelleher and Vassell. They are up there with the best in their position in this league. Do we really want to get rid of our best players? We are not far with what we have got, add quality to that team and you have a league winning squad. Get rid of all and bring in new players and start all over again doesnt always work. We need a squad of players that have been here longer than one season.
Agreed, 5 or 6 quality additions as well as a few punts from released Academy youngsters and lower leagues now we can afford to carry a bigger squad. We should be looking now at the up and coming players as we now should be able to compete with lower FL clubs to attract young talent.
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We are lucky to have Laiton, French, Kelleher and Vassell. They are up there with the best in their position in this league. Do we really want to get rid of our best players? We are not far with what we have got, add quality to that team and you have a league winning squad. Get rid of all and bring in new players and start all over again doesnt always work. We need a squad of players that have been here longer than one season.
Also look at some of the teams who gave won the league in recent times, the quality has definitely gone down in my opinion. We weren't too far from winning the title with an average squad and Brian Hughes as manager.
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Iím pretty sympathetic to that argument. My only concern is that maybe Keates isnít a manager who can get the most out of players, so some may be better than they look.
Hopefully Keates is cleaning windows in Walsall.
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Old 8th April 2021, 11.36:07   #127-0 (permalink)
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You've got to look at the players and ask yourselves could they perform at the higher end of league 2. Unfortunately the answer to most of our players is NO.

However, id definitely keep the following;

Lainton
Pearson
Kelleher
Vassell
Hall Johnson
French
Davies
Thomas

I'm unsure on the following;
Young
Jarvis
Angus

I'd release or loan out if under contract the following;

Dibble
Reckord
Carrington
Rutherford
Harris
Durrell
Jarvis
Ponticelli
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Young and Angus are quality at this level.
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A lot will depend on how the club is set up for next season, will there be a reserve team, under 23's and what youth set up will there be.

Also will the policy be to clear the decks in one window or bring in additional quality to support a first and second team and keep the likes of Carrington to guide the youth players

My view would be something like this to support a two team structure

Goalkeepers - Lainton, Dibble +1 (of decent quality)

Full backs - Hall Johnson + 3 new

Centre Backs - Pearson, Kelleher, Vassal, French, Cleworth + 2

Midfield - Davies, Young, Harris, Jarvis + 4

Forwards - Thomas, Ponticelli, Bickerstaff, Angus + 3

This would give you a squad of 28 for 2 teams, with 13 new players joining the club, there may also be room for Carrington and Rutherford to guide any players setting up from youth football.
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Young and Angus are quality at this level.
If Luke Young was quality at this level, why has he spent the last 7 years playing at this level with nobody taking a punt? I think he is a solid player at this level, but I think people can exaggerate his influence.
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