Southend Verdict

[Parry52]

Originally Posted by benwilliams

I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think 10 new signings are immediately going to knit together and win every match in a league we've struggled in for 14 years
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I don't expect to win every game, the issue I have is we've been on the back foot (in scoreline) in both the previous matches, at what point will the quality become too much for National League players? I know it's a lot really early, but we've never had this level of investment and for what we've put into this season being a success were making slightly hard work of it. I'm so grateful for what RR have done for the club, last thing I want is for them to have to go back into their wallets if the players we have here don't work out.

I know I've said before on Tozer but £200,000 is a lot of money for a 31 year old, he has no resale value. That £200,000 is for what he can bring to the table immediately. We need clean sheets, he needs to inspire the ones around them to get them.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by wxmedwards

If Hayden had better distribution he’d be in upper L1/lower Champ

From what I've seen of Hayden, I thought he had a below par game with his passing, not helped by little presence on the right hand side of the midfield.
Defence were generally lacking yesterday and we have conceded the first goal in the same way as we went behind against Notts County. Left Centre back found wanting,
Still lacking positive movement in the middle of the park. Davies seems to be targeted by the opposition for some rather crude tackles.
Happy with the point after being 2 down but we need to be putting a 100% game in, week in week out. Early days yet and much to look forward to. This wrexham team certainly keep you on the edge of your seat and we've had some decent games to watch.

[Hightown Brymbo Red]

Feeling optimistic this morning of it wasnt for a dodgy offside against NC and not letting the overtime goal at Solihull we would be top. Just wait until the team starts playing consistently well

[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by Parry52

I don't expect to win every game, the issue I have is we've been on the back foot (in scoreline) in both the previous matches, at what point will the quality become too much for National League players? I know it's a lot really early, but we've never had this level of investment and for what we've put into this season being a success were making slightly hard work of it. I'm so grateful for what RR have done for the club, last thing I want is for them to have to go back into their wallets if the players we have here don't work out.

I know I've said before on Tozer but £200,000 is a lot of money for a 31 year old, he has no resale value. That £200,000 is for what he can bring to the table immediately. We need clean sheets, he needs to inspire the ones around them to get them.

Your point about Tozer's responsibility is a fair one. It would seem likely that we will chop-and-change the LCB position because of Lennon's lack of full match fitness, which makes it difficult to learn everyone's strengths and weaknesses. I got the impression our biggest weakness was between Lennon and Reckord, which needs addressing.

Furthermore, Tozer's long throw-ins are not producing much at the moment. In fact, they leave us susceptible to a quick counter-attack. They need to be used better and less often, otherwise it will be easier for teams to set up, as most teams have big defenders to counter the aerial threat. Keeping the ball on the floor and moving it more quickly, might be a better option, with the occasional long throw to keep them on their toes.

Looking forward to seeing the Woking game, when we should be better able to gauge our issues. Woking will be tough opponents after 2 away wins, but we must be beating teams like them if we are to progress.

[Iggy Pop]

Regarding the official away attendance being given as 581, I've just watched a video put up on YouTube by a Southend fan, and the away stand is more than half full. That stand holds over 2,000 apparently!! Then I read this on the Southend fans forum, which explains it all...

"I work at the ground and apparently there was definitely over a thousand of your fans there but many entered the ground in a rush before the game and loads didn't have their tickets scanned as it seems they were just waved through the gates to ensure entry before kick off."

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by Iggy Pop

Regarding the official away attendance being given as 581, I've just watched a video put up on YouTube by a Southend fan, and the away stand is more than half full. That stand holds over 2,000 apparently!! Then I read this on the Southend fans forum, which explains it all...

"I work at the ground and apparently there was definitely over a thousand of your fans there but many entered the ground in a rush before the game and loads didn't have their tickets scanned as it seems they were just waved through the gates to ensure entry before kick off."

Figures for Numbers of tickets sold are logged, not official number of fans through the gate. There were loads of empty seats even amongst the main body of Wrexham fans. The support was still amazing no matter how many fans were there.

[basdragon]

Originally Posted by Funny_Old_Game

Lainton so indecisive for the second goal. If that's Dibble we hammer him.

Also looked like Hayden was sleeping, otherwise how on earth did one punt result in Murphy getting clear like that?

Agreed, thought the same. Both goals went straight through him. Did think that in a one on one situation I'd prefer Dibble.

Also thought when Lainton fielded a soft shot straight at him, if that had been Dibble he'd have spilled it.

Thought Steve Arnold looked decent . Came and caught the long throws to take pressure off the defence and set their first up through that.

A couple of times our defence were undone by a straight ball over the top, which was disappointing, but overall that was a decent comeback against a Southend team that seemed to raise their game.

Thought James Jones looked decent, Davies lightweight and can't remember Young doing much to be honest.

Really missed Mullin. Hyde and Angus looked like a pair that had never played together and Hyde looked to be frustrated with the situation.

I was expecting big things and we didn't deliver today, but on the up side, having gone 2-0 down to get a point was fantastic (last year even at 1-0 down we would have been looking at a defeat, let alone 2)and during that little period we showed what we are capable of.

Onward and upward !!

[the_holt_dragon]

Originally Posted by Parry52

I don't expect to win every game, the issue I have is we've been on the back foot (in scoreline) in both the previous matches, at what point will the quality become too much for National League players? I know it's a lot really early, but we've never had this level of investment and for what we've put into this season being a success were making slightly hard work of it. I'm so grateful for what RR have done for the club, last thing I want is for them to have to go back into their wallets if the players we have here don't work out.

I know I've said before on Tozer but £200,000 is a lot of money for a 31 year old, he has no resale value. That £200,000 is for what he can bring to the table immediately. We need clean sheets, he needs to inspire the ones around them to get them.

Why worry about the transfer fee, unless it’s stopped us investing elsewhere it is of little issue to me. I also don’t think we should feel uncomfortable about our owners needing to reinvest. I don’t think they are naive enough to think they wave a wand and everything will be sorted instantly, it’s an ongoing process. Even the best richest clubs have signings that don’t work out.

I’m pretty confident we will get a play off position and be very competitive, I think winning the league will be very tough. That’s progress and while I hope we do it this season, I accept the chance it may take longer, but we will get there.

We have replaced Harris and Rutherford for D and J Jones and while an upgrade. I’m not convinced enough to win the league considering how often the midfield were dominated last season. If you are playing 3 in midfield you are probably going to get 5 getting decent game time (Barrett and Thomas played 50 games between them when last promoted) and we look one short to me.

[Iggy Pop]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Figures for Numbers of tickets sold are logged, not official number of fans through the gate. There were loads of empty seats even amongst the main body of Wrexham fans. The support was still amazing no matter how many fans were there.

I'm not going to argue with someone who was obviously there, but I find it very hard to believe that there was only 581 there, after seeing the video footage.

That stand holds 2200, apparently, meaning that it was just over a quarter full.

Anyway, here is the video in question. Scroll forward to 11 minutes and see what you think...