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I have read that this is only a proposal at working committee steve and not a final agreement.

Anyone know how it might work technically and affect us if god forbid we don’t nail it this season. I saw a figure of £900k as the salary cap which seems low.!

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Won’t happen.

Funnily enough Chester proposed it.

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To easy to get around - Man C hide Millions. Pay players partners/Parents or out the blue you win a Facebook Aviation Gin Competion and win a house.

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I was wondering if it would go ahead or not as setting a working committee isn’t really conviction and I guess there are also legal questions marks also.

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[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2510569]To easy to get around - Man C hide Millions. Pay players partners/Parents or out the blue you win a Facebook Aviation Gin Competion and win a house.[/QUOTE]

Indeedy!

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[QUOTE=Conwy Rebel;2510557]I have read that this is only a proposal at working committee steve and not a final agreement.

Anyone know how it might work technically and affect us if god forbid we don’t nail it this season. I saw a figure of £900k as the salary cap which seems low.![/QUOTE]

We need to lobby this Steve fella.

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Lol no idea where steve came from lol :)��

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If it does come in dont you get a dispensation for players already under contract, so all our players on three year contracts don't count, effectively.

I may be wrong in the details of that but I'm sure I read something along those lines.

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Wasn't this same idea swatted down in the EFL? They shouldn't be able to enforce it in at this level too if so.

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[QUOTE=joe;2510566]Won’t happen.

Funnily enough Chester proposed it.[/QUOTE]

Suits smaller clubs

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So many Clbs have offered 3 year fat deals
Im inclined to believe this wont go through

Players unions will kick off , and rightly so

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2510618]If it does come in dont you get a dispensation for players already under contract, so all our players on three year contracts don't count, effectively.

I may be wrong in the details of that but I'm sure I read something along those lines.[/QUOTE]

Highly paid players under contract would be taken into account but the suggestion was that their salary would have to be based on the average for a National League player.
So a player on e.g.£4000 a week would be classed as earning the average, say £1500 per week.
Contract Law and Employment Law means the League cannot interfere with existing contracts, that’s one of the reasons why clubs in the National League are offering 2 and 3 year deals.

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Question atm is whether Che$ter will still be in the National League Divisions at this point…can you launch a motion that you are no longer a party too if it comes to fruition??

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I can see an argument for saying that a club can only spend a certain percentage of their turnover. That could prevent clubs from going bust, but to put a ball park figure (£900,000) is crazy.

Borehamwood, who probably have a turnover of less than £500,000, could spend £900,000. On the other hand we could have a turnover of over £3,000,000 but only be able to spend the same £900,000. What happens to the other £2,000,000 plus?

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[QUOTE=Iggy Pop;2510648]I can see an argument for saying that a club can only spend a certain percentage of their turnover. That could prevent clubs from going bust, but to put a ball park figure (£900,000) is crazy.

Borehamwood, who probably have a turnover of less than £500,000, could spend £900,000. On the other hand we could have a turnover of over £3,000,000 but only be able to spend the same £900,000. What happens to the other £2,000,000 plus?[/QUOTE]

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure Chester would still struggle with a 900k salary cap in this league (should they ever reach it again). They don't stand to gain from this style, honestly, whereas the turnover based approach seen in the EFL would benefit them, and ourselves, greatly.

It just seems to be a poorly thought out solution to the issue when something much better already exists in the leagues above. It'd allow for an easy transition from non-league to the EFL by implementing something similar.

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As stated too easy to get around anyway... We would have so many family members employed in random roles being paid more than some players

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[QUOTE=LMH23;2510657]Funnily enough I'm pretty sure Chester would still struggle with a 900k salary cap in this league (should they ever reach it again). They don't stand to gain from this style, honestly, whereas the turnover based approach seen in the EFL would benefit them, and ourselves, greatly.

It just seems to be a poorly thought out solution to the issue when something much better already exists in the leagues above. It'd allow for an easy transition from non-league to the EFL by implementing something similar.[/QUOTE]

Yep, only 1300 at Legoland yesterday

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[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2510718]Yep, only 1300 at Legoland yesterday[/QUOTE]

Someone suggested on Deva Chat, last week, that they have lost a few hundred to us!!

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[QUOTE=Iggy Pop;2510648]I can see an argument for saying that a club can only spend a certain percentage of their turnover. That could prevent clubs from going bust, but to put a ball park figure (£900,000) is crazy.

Borehamwood, who probably have a turnover of less than £500,000, could spend £900,000. On the other hand we could have a turnover of over £3,000,000 but only be able to spend the same £900,000. What happens to the other £2,000,000 plus?[/QUOTE]
It’ll be folded and tucked in nicely within the owner(s) back pocket.

This cap would be all too easy to circumvent anyway. What would stop the next Paul Mullin we buy from making a ‘special’ appearance in Deadpool 3 or his wife from making shedloads whilst holding down some illegitimate job role? The club’s creative accountant would be on overtime!

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While at Derby Tom Inces mum was allegedly paid £700k for scouting services to the club!

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[QUOTE=joe;2510566]Won’t happen.

Funnily enough Chester proposed it.[/QUOTE]

Let's be honest, we'd be it's biggest supporters if we were still under the WST

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[QUOTE=TopCornerFergie;2511154]Let's be honest, we'd be it's biggest supporters if we were still under the WST[/QUOTE]

We should support it now. Our commercial and match day revenue must be significantly higher than in previous years. Could also be a reason we’ve given 3 year contracts in case a) a salary cap is brought in; and b) we’re not promoted this season.

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2511170]We should support it now. Our commercial and match day revenue must be significantly higher than in previous years. Could also be a reason we’ve given 3 year contracts in case a) a salary cap is brought in; and b) we’re not promoted this season.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make sense. What's the point in having massively increased revenue streams if you can't spend it?

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[QUOTE=tokyored;2511172]That doesn't make sense. What's the point in having massively increased revenue streams if you can't spend it?[/QUOTE]

I think the point is , that the cap is usually based on the amount of revenue generated by the club . so it will be relative to the amount of money you bring in through ticket sales , sponsorship etc.

So we'd be better placed than pretty much anyone in the division currently ( although there are quite a few clubs in the league now with really decent attendance figures )

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[QUOTE=TopCornerFergie;2511154]Let's be honest, we'd be it's biggest supporters if we were still under the WST[/QUOTE]

Course we would, and I’d definitely be all for it. But what’s happened has happened.

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[QUOTE=rob_the_red;2511174]I think the point is , that the cap is usually based on the amount of revenue generated by the club . so it will be relative to the amount of money you bring in through ticket sales , sponsorship etc.
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It's not though. It's a cap of 900k for every club that's being discussed. Your turnover is irrelevant.
It's the same as in the football league last year before it was scrapped where teams like Sunderland turn over around 20 million but were only allowed to spend 2.5 million.

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[QUOTE=TopCornerFergie;2511154]Let's be honest, we'd be it's biggest supporters if we were still under the WST[/QUOTE]

I'll be honest in saying that I care very little about other football clubs as opposed to Wrexham. If it benefits us, I'll support it.

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[QUOTE=tokyored;2511177]It's not though. It's a cap of 900k for every club that's being discussed. Your turnover is irrelevant.
It's the same as in the football league last year before it was scrapped where teams like Sunderland turn over around 20 million but were only allowed to spend 2.5 million.[/QUOTE]

In that case, it’s ridiculous!

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2511183]In that case, it’s ridiculous![/QUOTE]

It may be but that is what the majority voted for. It was only removed because the EFL had failed in its responsibility to consult with the relevant representative bodies - for example the PFA who brought the objection.
Consultation continues.

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[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2511245]It may be but that is what the majority voted for. It was only removed because the EFL had failed in its responsibility to consult with the relevant representative bodies - for example the PFA who brought the objection.
Consultation continues.[/QUOTE]

Maybe if we fail this year, we can consult with Steve Evans to see how he got Boston promoted all those years ago.

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2511263]Maybe if we fail this year, we can consult with Steve Evans to see how he got Boston promoted all those years ago.[/QUOTE]

He makes Alex Hamilton look like Mother Teresa .

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Hopefully it end up in the long grass of ‘consultation continues...’