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Sir Crispin Lane 9th September 2021 11.25:20

Away support back in the day
 
All this talk of the university end being reopened has made me wonder where away fans that wanted to sit years ago were catered for . In my time of watching wxm from the mid 80’s they were always given the whole of that end which was both the terrace and the seating above but before the stand was opened , where did they put away fans that wanted to sit ? The old mold road stand ?

daiwxm 9th September 2021 11.33:19

Re: Away support back in the day
 
I remember fans swapping ends in the 60s and early 70s - not very pleasant at times when we met in the middle of the old terrace. Think away fans were given the old tech end following the redevelopment of the ground in the late 70s

WXMWELSH85 9th September 2021 11.37:09

Re: Away support back in the day
 
Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching!

Iggy Pop 9th September 2021 11.46:18

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]

Hereford in 1976? Could be an urban myth though because I didn't go to that one.

Bushfield Stand 9th September 2021 11.48:07

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=daiwxm;2512103]I remember fans swapping ends in the 60s and early 70s - not very pleasant at times when we met in the middle of the old terrace. Think away fans were given the old tech end following the redevelopment of the ground in the late 70s[/QUOTE]

Rolling back the years there Dai, always thought of Port Vale and Bradford Park Avenue games as the ones when you were almost certain to get a clack :)

Wrexham's Patrick Bateman 9th September 2021 11.48:25

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=daiwxm;2512103]I remember fans swapping ends in the 60s and early 70s - not very pleasant at times when we met in the middle of the old terrace. Think away fans were given the old tech end following the redevelopment of the ground in the late 70s[/QUOTE]

They were.. Ànd consequently, often, thanks to the accoustic effects, often outshouted the rest of the ground..

Hightown Brymbo Red 9th September 2021 11.59:18

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]

Technically yes as at one time you could walk around the ground and swap ends. And the tech end was very popular and made more noise than the Kop so home fans congregated there and Kop became away end

moynkeepthefaith 9th September 2021 11.59:22

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=Iggy Pop;2512109]Hereford in 1976? Could be an urban myth though because I didn't go to that one.[/QUOTE]

No chance.

rexham 9th September 2021 12.28:26

Re: Away support back in the day
 
The Uni stand opened around 78/79 as I recall - have graphic memory of sitting there when Mel Sutton scored in that end to beat Newcastle in the old Division 2. Can't recall where the geordies were though

Lord Derfyl Cadarn 9th September 2021 12.30:03

Re: Away support back in the day
 
If you look at the big games in the seventies, the Palace fans in 1977 were in the Tech End (behind the goal) as were Newcastle and Blackburn in 1978.
That's about as far back as I can remember.

Lord Derfyl Cadarn 9th September 2021 12.31:28

Re: Away support back in the day
 
The Geordies bover boots were lined up on the top of the wall as the police made them take them off on entry. Those were the days!

Sir Crispin Lane 9th September 2021 13.15:21

Re: Away support back in the day
 
It always seemed a bit of a waste in the early 90’s giving over the most modern up to date part of the ground to accommodate 20 Torquay fans on a Tuesday night !

techender 9th September 2021 13.26:50

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]

The only one I can think of was Middlesborough when we played them in the cup in the early 70s. The game Smallman scored the winner. I think they had the kop given to them.

Rhosymedre Red 9th September 2021 13.30:58

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=Lord Derfyl Cadarn;2512128]The Geordies bover boots were lined up on the top of the wall as the police made them take them off on entry. Those were the days![/QUOTE]
Ha yes, i have a picture of that.

dagg 9th September 2021 13.35:13

Re: Away support back in the day
 
I remember in the late sixties, being on the tec end one of the lad's started off with zigger zagger oi oi oi. can't remember his name, but they were brilliant day's.

lloydyp 9th September 2021 13.37:39

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=techender;2512142]The only one I can think of was Middlesborough when we played them in the cup in the early 70s. The game Smallman scored the winner. I think they had the kop given to them.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Techender Wrexham fans had the kop. Remember being wet on 1 side and dry the other as i could only get half under the busfields in the first half!

Kiddy Dragon 9th September 2021 13.58:24

Re: Away support back in the day
 
Back in the day the away end always changed at half time.

percy vere 9th September 2021 14.13:11

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=dagg;2512146]I remember in the late sixties, being on the tec end one of the lad's started off with zigger zagger oi oi oi. can't remember his name, but they were brilliant day's.[/QUOTE]

Bob ?

SCRed 9th September 2021 14.15:46

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]

They gave some of the Kop to England for the game that Wales won 4-1. England had just said they were going to get rid of the home internationals because Wales and N. Ireland weren't good enough :)

rob_the_red 9th September 2021 14.18:33

Re: Away support back in the day
 
Best away support I ever remember was Man City on Boxing Day backing in the late 90's ( I think ) ...they packed the tech end think they brought nearly 3000

REDGOG 9th September 2021 14.24:58

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=rexham;2512125]The Uni stand opened around 78/79 as I recall - have graphic memory of sitting there when Mel Sutton scored in that end to beat Newcastle in the old Division 2. Can't recall where the geordies were though[/QUOTE]



I thought it was partially open for the West ham game December 1978 with Wrexham winning 4-3 and West Ham occupying the terrace, may be just my memory playing up though.

I remember Swindon fans being put in the Yale paddock terrace ( Tech end) for Dixies and Dai's first game in 1977, due to the Tech end being closed.

rexham 9th September 2021 14.26:11

Re: Away support back in the day
 
i remember one game, i think in the 78 promotions season, where we had 3 sets of fans - whoever we were playing plus i think PNE as PNE needed the team we were playing to lose to get promoted or avoid relegation or something - could have the year or the opposition wrong

Pinnerred 9th September 2021 14.33:41

Re: Away support back in the day
 
I remember some Mansfield Town fans being in the old Bushfield stand for the final game of 1976/77 season (yes that game again!). They were spitting down on the Wexham fans. I don't recall Brighton or Palace fans in that stand during the big games although a solitary Brighton fan strayed onto the Kop.

moynkeepthefaith 9th September 2021 14.45:31

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=rexham;2512170]i remember one game, i think in the 78 promotions season, where we had 3 sets of fans - whoever we were playing plus i think PNE as PNE needed the team we were playing to lose to get promoted or avoid relegation or something - could have the year or the opposition wrong[/QUOTE]

I believe we were playing Peterborough and it was for sure Preston. Preston needed us to draw or win and I think it was 0-0

Iggy Pop 9th September 2021 14.45:54

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=rexham;2512170]i remember one game, i think in the 78 promotions season, where we had 3 sets of fans - whoever we were playing plus i think PNE as PNE needed the team we were playing to lose to get promoted or avoid relegation or something - could have the year or the opposition wrong[/QUOTE]

Yes. We were playing Peterborough and Preston fans occupied the whole of the Mold Road paddock. Peterborough needed to win to go up instead of Preston.

The game ended 0-0 and Wrexham and Preston fans were celebrating on the pitch together.

billybersham 9th September 2021 14.51:17

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]

If you look at the first pictures of what our kop was going to look like in about 1977 you will see that an away enclosure was going to be part of the kop but this never happened,I will look if I can find the programme.

Iggy Pop 9th September 2021 15.02:47

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=rob_the_red;2512165]Best away support I ever remember was Man City on Boxing Day backing in the late 90's ( I think ) ...they packed the tech end think they brought nearly 3000[/QUOTE]

The best away support (numbers wise) that I've ever seen in a league game, has to be the Sunderland fans on a May bank holiday in 1979. There must have been at least 7,000 of them in the ground.

There must have also been at least that amount of Liverpool fans there, as well, in the 1977-78 cup tie (tech end, Mold Road paddock and a few on the Kop).

billybersham 9th September 2021 15.11:17

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=Iggy Pop;2512193]The best away support (numbers wise) that I've ever seen in a league game, has to be the Sunderland fans on a May bank holiday in 1979. There must have been at least 7,000 of them in the ground.

There must have also been at least that amount of Liverpool fans there, as well, in the 1977-78 cup tie (tech end, Mold Road paddock and a few on the Kop).[/QUOTE]

Was that the game when the Sunderland fans were on the pitch celebrating promotion and was it Stoke who scored a late goal to go up instead of Sunderland.

dagg 9th September 2021 15.16:38

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=percy vere;2512162]Bob ?[/QUOTE]

thanks,

Iggy Pop 9th September 2021 15.18:29

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=billybersham;2512201]Was that the game when the Sunderland fans were on the pitch celebrating promotion and was it Stoke who scored a late goal to go up instead of Sunderland.[/QUOTE]

Yes, that was the one. Stoke pipped them by 1 point, with, as you said, a late late goal at Notts County.

Wirral Red 9th September 2021 15.59:10

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=Iggy Pop;2512193]

There must have also been at least that amount of Liverpool fans there, as well, in the 1977-78 cup tie (tech end, Mold Road paddock and a few on the Kop).[/QUOTE]

Except that I was one of them , I got my ticket from Anfield as I was living and working in Liverpool in those days , had to keep quiet though.

Dai Robin 9th September 2021 16.21:26

Re: Away support back in the day
 
First time I can remember the Kop being taken over was 26th September 1970 when Aston Villa beat us 3-2 in a League Division 3 match. The attendance was 18,335.

llewelyn 9th September 2021 16.27:32

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2512115]No chance.[/QUOTE]

The Kop was full with Hereford that day ,not that they were given it just took it, i walked in last minute not realising I was 1 of very few if any wrexham supporters on the kop, didn't escape scot free.

moynkeepthefaith 9th September 2021 16.30:39

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=llewelyn;2512246]The Kop was full with Hereford that day ,not that they were given it just took it, i walked in last minute not realising I was 1 of very few if any wrexham supporters on the kop, didn't escape scot free.[/QUOTE]

Well we were on it - i was big and agile in those days :)

llewelyn 9th September 2021 16.32:14

Re: Away support back in the day
 
In the 70s both home and away supporters would occupy the kop on many occasions, can remember chester Cardiff port Vale and many others.

Iggy Pop 9th September 2021 16.38:16

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=llewelyn;2512249]In the 70s both home and away supporters would occupy the kop on many occasions, can remember chester Cardiff port Vale and many others.[/QUOTE]

Same could be said for the tech end as well. It would look full of away supporters and then we would score and you could see loads of Wrexham fans jumping up and down in there.

red robin 9th September 2021 16.52:58

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=WXMWELSH85;2512105]Has an Away team ever used to Kop or part of the it - i cant recall in my 33 years watching![/QUOTE]
yes as stated the fans used to swap ends at half time, that's when the fighting started.

whead 9th September 2021 16.57:05

Re: Away support back in the day
 
I also remember away fans sitting in the top tier, and the lower tier being standing for home fans in the very early 90s

Prince_of_Ales 9th September 2021 17.07:01

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=billybersham;2512201]Was that the game when the Sunderland fans were on the pitch celebrating promotion and was it Stoke who scored a late goal to go up instead of Sunderland.[/QUOTE]

What a day that was! The Sunderland fans didn't take too kindly to us on the Kop taking the piss and headed straight for us - fortunately the fences were still in place, and it was before the ground level was raised, so when they got on the fence they realised they had a 10 - 12 foot drop the other side. Ended up a bit like the Foinavon fence at Aintree :)
Must admit I broke all records heading for home along Crispin Lane though!

GoJohnnyGoGoGoGo 9th September 2021 17.11:06

Re: Away support back in the day
 
[QUOTE=llewelyn;2512246]The Kop was full with Hereford that day ,not that they were given it just took it, i walked in last minute not realising I was 1 of very few if any wrexham supporters on the kop, didn't escape scot free.[/QUOTE]

The Hereford fans definitely occupied the central area under the Pigeon loft, with Wrexham fans fuming and plotting revenge attacks from the periphery. I think it calmed down second half.


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