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fezbob 10th September 2021 19.57:36

[QUOTE=Jose;2512849]If only 'Antifa' weren't doing exactly the same as the Nazi's did you may have a call, but as they are synonymous in action if not in all but the intricacies of their name, I'll call you out as being an Antifa\Nazi, as there is NO difference.

It's either their indoctrination or they will 'attempt' violence to force you in to their way of thinking. Think back to 1930'sGermany and you may find correlation with another political movement.

Sounds pretty much like Nazism to me.[/QUOTE]

Iím pretty sure thereís a big difference between people who get into the odd ruck with right wingers and a political organisation that wiped out 6 million people isnít the same.
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Vorporix 10th September 2021 20.02:44

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[QUOTE=fezbob;2512853]Iím pretty sure thereís a big difference between people who get into the odd ruck with right wingers and a political organisation that wiped out 6 million people isnít the same.
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I agree in the main - but get into the odd ruck with right wingers - is that all they do!

The Nazis's were anti-government and it would appear that most Antifa supporters are as well.

You don't need to support Antifa to be anti-fascist.

Vorporix 10th September 2021 20.03:13

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[QUOTE=Foxy;2512852]Iíve got a dishevelled and unwashed Palestinian scarf that I would be quite happy to donate to help them on their way. Itís a legacy of my student Uni days in the early eighties. They can also have my CND badge and Michael Foot donkey jacket.[/QUOTE]

Now that is funny to be fair :)

cardiffred 10th September 2021 20.04:20

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[QUOTE=fezbob;2512853]I’m pretty sure there’s a big difference between people who get into the odd ruck with right wingers and a political organisation that wiped out 6 million people isn’t the same.
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The truth is probably in the middle. As fascist as the Nazis? No. Just having the odd ruck... equally No.

As an aside -i'm always amazed at how similar the far right and left are.

Dougie Davies 10th September 2021 20.04:37

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[QUOTE=Jose;2512849]If only 'Antifa' weren't doing exactly the same as the Nazi's did you may have a call, but as they are synonymous in action if not in all but the intricacies of their name, I'll call you out as being an Antifa\Nazi, as there is NO difference.

It's either their indoctrination or they will 'attempt' violence to force you in to their way of thinking. Think back to 1930'sGermany and you may find correlation with another political movement.

Sounds pretty much like Nazism to me.[/QUOTE]

You've had a mare there. Where are the Antifa death camps?
They murdering Jews, the disabled, teachers, academics?
RP Gold right there

rob_1072 10th September 2021 20.07:20

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[QUOTE=fezbob;2512848]Whoís they? Antifaís an ideology and not an organisation.
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The people who carry antifa flags at rallyís and protests that usually turn violent. They tend to dress in all black and cover their faces. Your a journalist right? You must have seen some of the videos online. Mostly in America but like most things is getting spread over here too

lewi11 10th September 2021 20.08:38

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This is the thing, Antifa isn't an organisation. There are no subs, no membership, no card carrying. It's an umbrella term for everyone who is against fascism. Whether you're a militant protester, socialist, trade unionist or just a random guy who hates fascists. Everyone who opposes fascism is Antifa.

And this will probably come across as incredibly simplistic. But if you're anti Antifa then surely that makes you a fascist.

fezbob 10th September 2021 20.12:42

[QUOTE=rob_1072;2512860]The people who carry antifa flags at rallyís and protests that usually turn violent. They tend to dress in all black and cover their faces. Your a journalist right? You must have seen some of the videos online. Mostly in America but like most things is getting spread over here too[/QUOTE]

I donít agree with violence but would class myself as being against fascism. Iíve seen the likes of Donald Trump and his supporters try and paint the idea of ďantifaĒ as something itís not, in a similar way to how they label BLM as Marxist to delegitimise people who want racial equality. Canít think why anyone would want to do thatÖ
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Vorporix 10th September 2021 20.13:02

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[QUOTE=lewi11;2512861]This is the thing, Antifa isn't an organisation. There are no subs, no membership, no card carrying. It's an umbrella term for everyone who is against fascism. Whether you're a militant protester, socialist, trade unionist or just a random guy who hates fascists. Everyone who opposes fascism is Antifa.

And this will probably come across as incredibly simplistic. But if you're anti Antifa then surely that makes you a fascist.[/QUOTE]

Agree - incredibly simplistic.


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