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tokyored 15th September 2021 21.55:08

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
[QUOTE=MichaelP;2515663]No matter who the manager has been for the last 15 years + . Overnight stays don’t seem very successful when you look at games we have stayed in hotels for.

What I couldn’t get was the team travelled down on Monday for a game on Tuesday evening.

It used to be that if we had a game in midweek we wouldn’t bother with Hotels but if it was a weekend game and involved a lot of mileage a hotel the night before would be a given.

[B]Now even at the cheapest calculations if you take into account the accommodation and food that all staff would need it’s a big part of the yearly spend.[/B]

Say you have 2 players to one room. = £50 for the room x 8 rooms for a squad of 16 players that would come to = £400

Then you of course have management so say Manager / coaches / Physio etc say another 4 rooms = £200

That comes to £600.

Plus meals and drinks could quite easily have not much change from £1,000 from match preparations as opposed to travelling on day and that’s based on the cheapest accommodation food possible booking in advance.

If you then x that be say = 15 games = £15,000 !!

Now if we were successful then it could be argued money well spent but when more often than not it isn’t . Then the money would be much better spent somewhere else?[/QUOTE]

Seeing as you've got time to do some back of an envelope maths, could you tell us what percentage of our yearly spending £15,000!! represents? Thanks in advance.

TheRealWelshWayne 15th September 2021 22.00:09

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
One of the 31

MichaelP 15th September 2021 22.04:13

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
[QUOTE=TheRealWelshWayne;2515689]One of the 31[/QUOTE]

Yes of course! Seems to be a catchphrase on here!

Teifi Red 15th September 2021 22.12:40

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
Ok, I’ll bite. What percentage of games have we won, drawn or lost over the last 15 years after staying overnight. I’ve picked 15 years as it’s the one you used in your original post. Be interesting to see your stats on it.

MichaelP 15th September 2021 22.52:51

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
[QUOTE=Teifi Red;2515692]Ok, Iíll bite. What percentage of games have we won, drawn or lost over the last 15 years after staying overnight. Iíve picked 15 years as itís the one you used in your original post. Be interesting to see your stats on it.[/QUOTE]

Itís not about biting. I havenít gone out of my way to provoke an argument. Itís just something I have noticed. Itís neither a dig at the pre wst days / wst days / new regime takeover.

It doesnít matter what era you take i am sure that more often than not we have lost when we have had an overnight stay. Yes of course we have won and drawn games we have stayed overnight. I am not saying that 100% of times when we have stayed overnight it has ended in defeat. My personal feeling is when I have found out we have booked overnight I have thought oh here we go again!

One game which stays in my mind all those years ago was when we booked overnight for Hereford away - Brian Little season. Which I donít need to tell anyone how that game ended and resulted in.

The money granted in grand scheme of things isnít a lot. Yes of course £15,000 would be more noticeable in a wst budget than a R & R budget.

Itís more the success rate of staying overnight.

I have spoken to players from past who have said that a lot of time when spending overnight it used to be a lot of twiddling thumbs , you couldnít go out and have beers as maybe you could do in the 70s / 80s and early 90s.

You have a meal go to bed. And then prepare following day. The home comforts are missed.

Would it be worth Trialing say the next noticeable large distance away game Aldershot which is a Saturday and travelling up early in morning and seeing what players feedback but more importantly the performance and result.

billybersham 16th September 2021 01.07:06

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
[QUOTE=MichaelP;2515669]Or just travel down on the day by coach like a lot of other teams do at our level ?[/QUOTE]

Most clubs at our level only travel on the day because the national league has around 16 southern based clubs.

Alan Attack 16th September 2021 05.35:02

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
All this because we lost a game.

louisleftboot 16th September 2021 05.43:15

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
If we weren’t having overnight stays, you would be saying the coach journeys are making us leggy.

Radcliffe was talking nonsense with all that. Could barely finish his thought process. Just looking for a reason to bash.

noisy1 16th September 2021 06.00:48

Re: The Hotel Factor
 
[QUOTE=louisleftboot;2515701]If we werenít having overnight stays, you would be saying the coach journeys are making us leggy.

Radcliffe was talking nonsense with all that. Could barely finish his thought process. Just looking for a reason to bash.[/QUOTE]

Now now, Ratshit is full if inspirational nuggets :eek:


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