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ABd 17th September 2021 23.00:28

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2516481]Pretty much agree with all of that.[/QUOTE]

You read it?

Mentalist.

redone 17th September 2021 23.09:43

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=benwilliams;2516452]Ok ill add my snap judgements from the 3 games I've actually attended/watched:

Lainton - fine need to keep concentration
French - better than expected keep it up
Cleworth - too raw for a team with title aspirations
Hayden - a class act but prone to a cock up
Tozer - solid hate the throw ins and not sure he is worth the £££ yet
Lennon - very good player but made of glass
Reckord - better than last season but still frustrating and erratic
Jones - not seeing it yet
Young - out of position, too frantic, feel for him
Davies - ok not hit the heights of 2nd half last season yet
Mcalinden - crap headless chicken
Mullin - class act frustrated by the averageneas around him so far
Hyde - really good player, great finisher, dropping too deep given our midfield inadequacies
Angus - poses a threat but only really effective playing off a big man, may do better wide in a 433

The rest I've not seen long enough to judge
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you are clueless mate

Trundlebus 17th September 2021 23.55:22

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=redone;2516488]you are clueless mate[/QUOTE]

So back it up with your opinion

redavid 18th September 2021 07.11:40

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Trundlebus;2516396]Lainton - Good enough when fit

Reckord - Not good enough Last season or this season
Hayden - A liability
Tozer - Not worth what we spent
Lennon - I can’t comment
French - Too many mistakes

Davies - Decent
Young - struggling
Jones - Not good enough (compared to Keates and Harris in their prime for us)

Hyde & Mullin - Quality


We’ve taken a giant leap forward with the forwards but gone backwards in defence and midfield[/QUOTE]

total Bullshit:(

redavid 18th September 2021 07.15:00

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Trundlebus;2516427]The comments are with a view to winning the league and partly my point, there was talk of winning the league or going unbeaten. The reality is, the only semi comfortable match we’ve had was at Eastleigh.

Solihull outplayed us, we were decent against Notts and average or poor for the rest of them.[/QUOTE]

Winning the League didnt come from Management , it came from Fans .

redavid 18th September 2021 07.26:34

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Nightmancommeth;2516471]Lainton - class for this level, unfortunately has injury issues, would no doubt be playing higher if he consistently played and didn’t have injuries or potential injuries casting doubt in his mind, i.e commanding the area with set pieces or committing forward to cut out earlier chances. Reckord - Abit of a scapegoat to be honest. We’ve had decent attacking LBs with Ashton, Jennings and at first, Newton(yes he lost his bottle pretty fast and went shite towards his tenure) but from what I’ve seen in person, Reckord is steady and solid. Won’t concede many down his side but won’t create too many either unless he has a creative option in front, which is harder with 5/3/2. Hayden - Quality. Seams to be facing the harsh reality of defending against 6ft6 shithouses with more scrapping attributes than footballing pedigree but I’m sure he will stand out sooner than later as you can tell he’s a cut above. Tozer - Men of men, proper leader. Screams captain and probably would have been if we signed him before announcing Young as it. Should be in League 1 atleast with his ability to lead and read the game. If we can implement his throws into our game plan properly then we have a real weapon on our hands, IF. Lennon - Many people doubted the lad when he came in, rightly so to be fair, with his injury record. But obviously, the people behind the scenes had an idea of the role he will play(3 at the back with Brisley/Cleworth to replace when required. I think the back 3 will be Hayden Tozer and Brisley towards the end of the season, but Lennon clearly has the class to play higher. It’s a shame with injuries as he probably won’t get a full season for a long time. Looked shakey at first but he was back from injury. Looked class the games after, more confident/settled? Will require time to become a full season starter but definitely has the potential if he stays injury free. French - has made RWB his own to be fair. Class act, frustrated at the lack of game time last season and rightly so. Will be hard to drop for RHJ. I’d even jiggle the formation slightly to fit both personally, with RHJ attacking prowess and French’s athleticism and defence capabilities. Young - I want Young to prove everyone wrong and show why he’s been picked as captain. Capable player but definitely doing a role that doesn’t do his justice. The lad has a rocket of a shot and a decent engine, however, can come across slightly erratic and almost trying to do too much in the defensive role. Davies - Can look like a world beater one game and be Casper the ghost the next. Obvious talent and worth building a team around to accommodate his strengths. Brighton wouldn’t have signed him if they didn’t see a player in him. Needs to find consistency and confidence to play against the ugly teams. He will skin them alive if he can find those two components. James Jones - Hard one to judge as I have only seen the few games he’s played in the Wrexham shirt. Seams to always stand out in a disoriented/bypassed midfield. Seams to know where the net is and can pick out a creative pass. Is he too similar to Young in the style of play? I think all three would flourish if one was dropped for that illustrious holding midfielder that seams to of passed us by again. Hyde - Class. So strong and was the obvious candidate to partner with Mullin. Hold up play is decent and can also score. Will hit 15 atleast this season. Remember the days of holding forwards who couldn’t score (the Drewe Broughtons, Mark Becks, well, those couldn’t even play football but you get the idea, too many too mention). Mullin - Absolutely class. Everything he touched is magical and we must simply build the team to have him at forefront of everything. Reminds me of a better Andy Mangan . Phil Parkinson - has built a class team and his name has obviously aided the signings of some big names(or was it the money and/or Les Reed). Can get results and build really solid looking teams without the thrills. Seams a cut above our conference managers of the past, but have we signed the right style of players to match his style of play. I hope so.[/QUOTE]

Have you heard of sentencess or paragraghes comma`s stop to take a breath mate

pricey 18th September 2021 07.39:22

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[QUOTE=Nightmancommeth;2516471]Lainton - class for this level, unfortunately has injury issues, would no doubt be playing higher if he consistently played and didn’t have injuries or potential injuries casting doubt in his mind, i.e commanding the area with set pieces or committing forward to cut out earlier chances. Reckord - Abit of a scapegoat to be honest. We’ve had decent attacking LBs with Ashton, Jennings and at first, Newton(yes he lost his bottle pretty fast and went shite towards his tenure) but from what I’ve seen in person, Reckord is steady and solid. Won’t concede many down his side but won’t create too many either unless he has a creative option in front, which is harder with 5/3/2. Hayden - Quality. Seams to be facing the harsh reality of defending against 6ft6 shithouses with more scrapping attributes than footballing pedigree but I’m sure he will stand out sooner than later as you can tell he’s a cut above. Tozer - Men of men, proper leader. Screams captain and probably would have been if we signed him before announcing Young as it. Should be in League 1 atleast with his ability to lead and read the game. If we can implement his throws into our game plan properly then we have a real weapon on our hands, IF. Lennon - Many people doubted the lad when he came in, rightly so to be fair, with his injury record. But obviously, the people behind the scenes had an idea of the role he will play(3 at the back with Brisley/Cleworth to replace when required. I think the back 3 will be Hayden Tozer and Brisley towards the end of the season, but Lennon clearly has the class to play higher. It’s a shame with injuries as he probably won’t get a full season for a long time. Looked shakey at first but he was back from injury. Looked class the games after, more confident/settled? Will require time to become a full season starter but definitely has the potential if he stays injury free. French - has made RWB his own to be fair. Class act, frustrated at the lack of game time last season and rightly so. Will be hard to drop for RHJ. I’d even jiggle the formation slightly to fit both personally, with RHJ attacking prowess and French’s athleticism and defence capabilities. Young - I want Young to prove everyone wrong and show why he’s been picked as captain. Capable player but definitely doing a role that doesn’t do his justice. The lad has a rocket of a shot and a decent engine, however, can come across slightly erratic and almost trying to do too much in the defensive role. Davies - Can look like a world beater one game and be Casper the ghost the next. Obvious talent and worth building a team around to accommodate his strengths. Brighton wouldn’t have signed him if they didn’t see a player in him. Needs to find consistency and confidence to play against the ugly teams. He will skin them alive if he can find those two components. James Jones - Hard one to judge as I have only seen the few games he’s played in the Wrexham shirt. Seams to always stand out in a disoriented/bypassed midfield. Seams to know where the net is and can pick out a creative pass. Is he too similar to Young in the style of play? I think all three would flourish if one was dropped for that illustrious holding midfielder that seams to of passed us by again. Hyde - Class. So strong and was the obvious candidate to partner with Mullin. Hold up play is decent and can also score. Will hit 15 atleast this season. Remember the days of holding forwards who couldn’t score (the Drewe Broughtons, Mark Becks, well, those couldn’t even play football but you get the idea, too many too mention). Mullin - Absolutely class. Everything he touched is magical and we must simply build the team to have him at forefront of everything. Reminds me of a better Andy Mangan . Phil Parkinson - has built a class team and his name has obviously aided the signings of some big names(or was it the money and/or Les Reed). Can get results and build really solid looking teams without the thrills. Seams a cut above our conference managers of the past, but have we signed the right style of players to match his style of play. I hope so.[/QUOTE]

My god.

We scroll again

Back of the Kop 18th September 2021 08.05:19

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2516481]Pretty much agree with all of that. We aren't playing as a team all the time and there is plenty to improve still but we look hugely improved over last season (in the home games at least which are the ones I've seen).

I agree with your point over the start too, compare our statler with Dagenham, in their first 6 games theyve played 4 of last seasons bottom 5.[/QUOTE]

That's a good point. Our most difficult start I can ever remember and it doesn't let up for another 3 weeks. We are probably playing what will end up being the top 10 over the first 2 months. If Chesterfield or Dagenham had our start they'd probably be where we are.

The league table wont take proper shape until November/December. By the time we come around to the return fixtures in 2022 we should have moulded our side and significantly strengthened in the transfer market

While Tuesday was a disappointing result, 1 defeat in 6 with those fixtures is far from a disaster with virtually a new side.

Burgerboy 18th September 2021 11.19:55

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[QUOTE=Back of the Kop;2516528]That's a good point. Our most difficult start I can ever remember and it doesn't let up for another 3 weeks. We are probably playing what will end up being the top 10 over the first 2 months. If Chesterfield or Dagenham had our start they'd probably be where we are.

The league table wont take proper shape until November/December. By the time we come around to the return fixtures in 2022 we should have moulded our side and significantly strengthened in the transfer market

While Tuesday was a disappointing result, 1 defeat in 6 with those fixtures is far from a disaster with virtually a new side.[/QUOTE]

I think you're right. What I'd add is that it takes time to gel. Remember Wigan back in the day. Kept changing managers and players, kept having slow starts and missing out. When the penny dropped and they kept Ray Matthias (I think) as boss and they had continuity they started moving up to the Premier League.

It's a shame the fixture list was as bad to us as it has been. An easier start to the season and I think we'd have been winning as we gelled together, perhaps meaning we don't drop points at home to Notts County and get a point away to Grimsby. But, we have the hand we've been dealt. They'll come good. It might mean the play offs, but we will be in the mix at the end.

MichaelP 18th September 2021 11.24:22

Re: Starting 11
 
nightmancommeth

I would hand a copy of your CV in for the attention of Ollie Williams.

Huffy 18th September 2021 11.33:34

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Nightmancommeth;2516471]Lainton - class for this level, unfortunately has injury issues, would no doubt be playing higher if he consistently played and didn’t have injuries or potential injuries casting doubt in his mind, i.e commanding the area with set pieces or committing forward to cut out earlier chances. Reckord - Abit of a scapegoat to be honest. We’ve had decent attacking LBs with Ashton, Jennings and at first, Newton(yes he lost his bottle pretty fast and went shite towards his tenure) but from what I’ve seen in person, Reckord is steady and solid. Won’t concede many down his side but won’t create too many either unless he has a creative option in front, which is harder with 5/3/2. Hayden - Quality. Seams to be facing the harsh reality of defending against 6ft6 shithouses with more scrapping attributes than footballing pedigree but I’m sure he will stand out sooner than later as you can tell he’s a cut above. Tozer - Men of men, proper leader. Screams captain and probably would have been if we signed him before announcing Young as it. Should be in League 1 atleast with his ability to lead and read the game. If we can implement his throws into our game plan properly then we have a real weapon on our hands, IF. Lennon - Many people doubted the lad when he came in, rightly so to be fair, with his injury record. But obviously, the people behind the scenes had an idea of the role he will play(3 at the back with Brisley/Cleworth to replace when required. I think the back 3 will be Hayden Tozer and Brisley towards the end of the season, but Lennon clearly has the class to play higher. It’s a shame with injuries as he probably won’t get a full season for a long time. Looked shakey at first but he was back from injury. Looked class the games after, more confident/settled? Will require time to become a full season starter but definitely has the potential if he stays injury free. French - has made RWB his own to be fair. Class act, frustrated at the lack of game time last season and rightly so. Will be hard to drop for RHJ. I’d even jiggle the formation slightly to fit both personally, with RHJ attacking prowess and French’s athleticism and defence capabilities. Young - I want Young to prove everyone wrong and show why he’s been picked as captain. Capable player but definitely doing a role that doesn’t do his justice. The lad has a rocket of a shot and a decent engine, however, can come across slightly erratic and almost trying to do too much in the defensive role. Davies - Can look like a world beater one game and be Casper the ghost the next. Obvious talent and worth building a team around to accommodate his strengths. Brighton wouldn’t have signed him if they didn’t see a player in him. Needs to find consistency and confidence to play against the ugly teams. He will skin them alive if he can find those two components. James Jones - Hard one to judge as I have only seen the few games he’s played in the Wrexham shirt. Seams to always stand out in a disoriented/bypassed midfield. Seams to know where the net is and can pick out a creative pass. Is he too similar to Young in the style of play? I think all three would flourish if one was dropped for that illustrious holding midfielder that seams to of passed us by again. Hyde - Class. So strong and was the obvious candidate to partner with Mullin. Hold up play is decent and can also score. Will hit 15 atleast this season. Remember the days of holding forwards who couldn’t score (the Drewe Broughtons, Mark Becks, well, those couldn’t even play football but you get the idea, too many too mention). Mullin - Absolutely class. Everything he touched is magical and we must simply build the team to have him at forefront of everything. Reminds me of a better Andy Mangan . Phil Parkinson - has built a class team and his name has obviously aided the signings of some big names(or was it the money and/or Les Reed). Can get results and build really solid looking teams without the thrills. Seams a cut above our conference managers of the past, but have we signed the right style of players to match his style of play. I hope so.[/QUOTE]

Wooo

Although after I concentrated like mad , I liked everything up put in there Nighty!! Very well explained

pricey 18th September 2021 11.37:53

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Huffy;2516599]Wooo

Although after I concentrated like mad , I liked everything up put in there Nighty!! Very well explained[/QUOTE]

I feel like my eyes are on fire just looking at it

dragonspark 18th September 2021 11.40:08

Re: Starting 11
 
personally i think the players we have had from the league are still adjusting to the pace of non league, i have notice Hayden has been turned quickly on a number of occaisions, one of the southend goals is an example, for Grimsby,s first goal perhaps Hayden should have had it and i think it was Tozer just the other side also, but they didnt.
You could see Grimsby were staright at the players, no time, whack straight in and i think our better quality players need to address this and adjust their game.
Not an excellant start, in a way im glad we have started the way we have, expectations have been sky high, the takeover etc etc but reality has not met the unattainable expectations, i think we will still go up this season

Iggy Pop 18th September 2021 11.45:26

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Huffy;2516599]Wooo

Although after I concentrated like mad , I liked everything up put in there Nighty!! Very well explained[/QUOTE]

Same here. I nearly replied with a sarcastic tl;dr but having read it, it's quite a good well thought out post.

krux 18th September 2021 11.50:31

Re: Starting 11
 
Lennon seemed great v Woking but he needs to be able to play 3 games a week. Hopefully he will be able to soon

Nightmancommeth 18th September 2021 12.05:17

Re: Starting 11
 
My bad guys, I did lay it out properly with gaps but it just uploaded like that. I agree with you reading it it’s a right eyesore ugh haha

MichaelP 18th September 2021 12.07:24

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=Nightmancommeth;2516612]My bad guys, I did lay it out properly with gaps but it just uploaded like that. I agree with you reading it it’s a right eyesore ugh haha[/QUOTE]

Lol I found it funny. I ain’t exactly the best at grammar myself.

Like others have said it’s a good post. :)

If you are going today to the game enjoy the match.

Nightmancommeth 18th September 2021 12.11:20

Re: Starting 11
 
[QUOTE=MichaelP;2516613]Lol I found it funny. I ain’t exactly the best at grammar myself.

Like others have said it’s a good post. :)

If you are going today to the game enjoy the match.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha that’s it mate, it’s not a grammar/English test :D. And you, fingers crossed we get a decent result today. Can feel a Mullin double today!

WREX01 18th September 2021 12.13:41

Re: Starting 11
 
To summarise we have plenty of quality up top and at the back .
Both areas are unable to perform to their true potential due to the lack of balance in midfield.


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