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One out of Nine ain't good!

Good point.
What do people think attendances would be at the moment without R&R, documentary etc but with the same level of success?

7-8k would be my guess.

I remember we got about 9k on the day we last clinched promotion back in 2003. We’d have probably been close to sell out for the boreham wood game and then good feel factor would have continued into the new season. The plus point would have been that anybody wanting to come watch us would still be able to. Obviously now with Wrexham being in the limelight it has attracted a lot of people who would have never given us a thought in the past.
 
Good point.
What do people think attendances would be at the moment without R&R, documentary etc but with the same level of success?

Good question.

About 25% less.

I disagree.

Hard to quantify but imo Rob and Ryan + Money + Success is what is bringing the fans. Progression through the leagues and genuine feel good factor will keep the place packed out.

The doc is driving online interest and replica shirt sales. But if it finished this season I don't think the crowds would decrease by 25%

Obviously without the doc there is no Rob and Ryan so its a bit chicken and egg.
 
I disagree.

Hard to quantify but imo Rob and Ryan + Money + Success is what is bringing the fans. Progression through the leagues and genuine feel good factor will keep the place packed out.

The doc is driving online interest and replica shirt sales. But if it finished this season I don't think the crowds would decrease by 25%

Obviously without the doc there is no Rob and Ryan so its a bit chicken and egg.

I guesstimated 25% less based on R&R never happening. If we'd have achieved promotion without them (never happening) we'd be getting 7K+ given where we are in League 2 as Outertowner says above.

If R&R walked away tomorrow (never happening...at least until the socumentary has finished its run and then who knows?) we'd see a few drift away but not many locals.

Whats been great about this whole thing is the new generation of Wrexham fans who have emerged from 5-16 years old. They are hooked and are in it for the long haul. Thousands will be getting Wrexham shirts for Xmas whereas previously they'd be getting Prem shirts. Brilliant to see.
 
I guesstimated 25% less based on R&R never happening. If we'd have achieved promotion without them (never happening) we'd be getting 7K+ given where we are in League 2 as Outertowner says above.

If R&R walked away tomorrow (never happening...at least until the socumentary has finished its run and then who knows?) we'd see a few drift away but not many locals.

Whats been great about this whole thing is the new generation of Wrexham fans who have emerged from 5-16 years old. They are hooked and are in it for the long haul. Thousands will be getting Wrexham shirts for Xmas whereas previously they'd be getting Prem shirts. Brilliant to see.



Not sure why people keep talking about R&R walking away, regardless of what happens with the documentary . Both of them have stated many, many times that this is a multiple decade project for them - rob already saying that this will be multigenerational for his family . Best will into world , there's no way the documentary will run for multiple decades , so they both see a future for themselves at the club long beyond the end of Welcome to Wrexham .

If we can achieve championship football and can increase the ground capacity to around 20,000 the revenue that will generate will go a long way to offsetting the revenue loss if the documentary did come to an end . Sponsorship revenue would continue to increase as we went up the leagues anyway and we're already a global brand , which sponsors will continue to want to associate with , partly because of R&R regardless of the situation with the documentary .

Bottom line , R&R are here to stay - not sure how much more clearly they can both state this
 
if the capacity increases by 5,500 I would expect tickets for members to increase by that amount.

Notwithstanding your point about away fans. Presumably there is some % rule?

10%. I suppose with some clever segregation voodoo like Stockport did we can keep the away fans where they are.
 
10%. I suppose with some clever segregation voodoo like Stockport did we can keep the away fans where they are.

Hasn’t Humph or Shaun already confirmed on one of the many podcasts that once the Kop is built. The away fans will be moving.
 
Email Peter Wynne like I did, go on Twitter and post your concerns, this is a reply I had from Peter Wynne a few months ago. They need to u derstand our concerns!

Email him at [email protected]

Firstly, I’m sorry that you’re not happy and have missed out on tickets. Obviously our demand is exceeding the supply currently, and while that will naturally leave some fans disappointed that they’ve missed out on tickets, without having additional seating to meet the current demand it will continue to be an issue.

We will always accept feedback whether it’s positive or constructive, but please allow me to address some of your concerns you’ve raised in your previous email.

Timing out will happen, and will happen on many other websites. It’s just a case of logging back in to your account. The queue system is only in place to actually access the site, and once on the site, having to log back in to your account won’t put you at the back of the queue again.
Capatcha’s are also in place as a Ticketmaster security feature (much like many other sites) and given the massive demand for tickets currently, they greatly reduce the ability of “bots” to buy up the tickets (something that none of us want!) so are a requirement.

The ballot error you’ve received, I can confirm you have entered the MK Dons ballot successfully. If it hasn’t asked you for payment details then not to worry, if successful your seats would be reserved for you to pay for at a later date. We usually request payment details in advance to speed up the process for successful applicants, but like I say, you’ve entered successfully as you’ve received your confirmation email and if successful your seats will be reserved for you.

You state, “Please dont reply to me with the std corporate bull” but as you also mention that you used to be a business owner yourself, I’m not entirely sure what you expect my reply to be?
The ticketing site has continued to improve over the past couple of years, and while I would admit it’s not yet perfect and of course there are areas for improvement still, it’s something that we continue to work with our ticketing provider on and given the demand that the site has for each sale day, and the amount of tickets it’s processing in such a short space of time, I would defend the sites functionality as a whole.
I can always look at individual cases and investigate issues where possible, but given the overwhelming majority of successful purchases of tickets and memberships through the site, I would say that the ticketing site certainly is fit for purpose, and as I say, will only continue to improve as we move forward.

Once again, I’m sorry that you’ve experienced some issues, but thank you for your feedback and your continued support.


Kind Regards,

Peter Wynne

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Cheers mate but it’s just corporal waffle though, won’t get my seats back. But I guess it’s sound for them, watching the games for free without any stress of getting tickets in the first place, sorry I mean as part of their jobs.
 
Hasn’t Humph or Shaun already confirmed on one of the many podcasts that once the Kop is built. The away fans will be moving.

I saw one interview months ago, Shaun was asked if we would see the away fans return to the Tech End when the new Kop was open, he replied something like 'I think so, eventually.' That didn't sound like an immediate plan. More likely after work on Wrexham Lager and Tech End stands is completed and capacity is nearer 20,000.
 
For those on here complaining, may I ask? What stopped you from getting a season ticket when it was fairly obvious which way the club was heading?
 
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