Welcome to Wrexham S3 E6 "Far Away, So Close" discussion thread (spoilers)

[Red Dragons AFC]

Yeah I can't say Parky will never get fired but I do think for the moment the man has as much job security as anyone outside of Pep, Ancelotti and maybe a couple others perhaps. And that's as much a commentary on how volatile the manager merry-go-round is, as it is how much credit Parky's built up with back-to-back promotions and five total in his career. Not to mention his personality (separately off the pitch with fans and in the locker room for the documentary) makes him a good ambassador for Wrexham as a worldwide club.

 

[Red Dragons AFC]

I really enjoy the documentary, but I wonder if some of the players feel left out some never get a mention.

I do wonder about that with certain players, I do think in some cases it comes down to who's comfortable telling their story on camera and who isn't. The two co-captains have barely been on camera, I'm not sure Tozer ever has in the series. Luke Young got five minutes in season two and a couple of snippets here and there.

Of course in other situations it's about who's being used and who isn't. Guys like Davies, Lainton and Hayden featured a lot in season one but as they've become more marginalized you don't really see them at all on the series either.

 

[Bosnian_red]

Or he steps down/ moves up stairs

I don't see other teams (currently above us in the pyramid) going for Parky.

Nearly every Championship team is moving to the modern "head coach" type with CEO&DoF in charge of transfers, and going through loads of data to find the coach they think fits the club.

Parky's not like that, though he does have an incredible win rate with us, I don't see him leaving. The way you know someone's a good manager/coach is if you see rumours of them being targetted by other teams.

We're also fairly rich, which adds an element of stability. There are bigger clubs, sure, but we're also not like say, Plymouth Argyle who had their manager poached by Stoke, or Luton where Nathan Jones got poached by Stoke and then later, Southampton - after some really impressive results (like say, Argyle winning League One on a way smaller budget compared to Ipswich or Wednesday and then being way above the relegation zone in January)

 

[Red Dragons AFC]

Or Notts County getting their manager poached lol

It really does show how much of a different world we live in when we don't have to worry about that same thing happening to us for the moment.

 

[mattwxm30]

Keep in mind that they're taking short snippets of hour-long podcasts that we do. Also, it's generally in line with the majority of fan sentiment at the time. None of us were calling for Parky's head, but frustration during that period over away performances etc was a very real thing.

In fairness to FiD the overwhelming majority on here were very worried around that time. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say what were they worried about but there were some red flags. Fortunately the manager found the answers and we finished the season strongly.

The show did a pretty good job in portraying the season. It wasn't all sunshine and light, we made fairly hard work of it.

 

[FieldtownRed]

In fairness to FiD the overwhelming majority on here were very worried around that time. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say what were they worried about but there were some red flags. Fortunately the manager found the answers and we finished the season strongly.

The show did a pretty good job in portraying the season. It wasn't all sunshine and light, we made fairly hard work of it.

Yeah absolutely this. There were a load of grim games around February where our performances were very poor. Fgr, sutton and mk dons away and tranmere at home spring to mind!

In fact, promotion is all the more surprising when you consider how many poor performances there were during the season.

 

[EnglishRed]

Yeah absolutely this. There were a load of grim games around February where our performances were very poor. Fgr, sutton and mk dons away and tranmere at home spring to mind!

In fact, promotion is all the more surprising when you consider how many poor performances there were during the season.

But there were also loads of really good performances.Fact is we were comfortably one of the three best teams last season over the entire year and deserved promotion as a result.

You'll do well to find a team who don't have a bad performance over a season. Even when we blitzed the national league we had some poor games. Real Madrid just won the Champions League with some very underpar performances. Both Mansfield and Stockport had periods of poor form and bad performances.

 

[yannick]

Argentina was already colonised by that point no? weren’t they invited over by the Spanish to settle poor land into farmland?

Argentina was, but Patagonia was still controlled by indigenous Mapuche and Tehuelche people (despite Argentina claiming it). Settlement of Patagonia - of which y Wladfa was a part - was part of the Argentine strategy to take control of the region which culminated in the conquest of the desert - which began 10 years after Welsh settlers arrived in Patagonia.

And while Welsh settlers didn't participate in (and in fact opposed) the violent dispossession of Mapuche/Tehuelche by Argentina, they were still instruments of colonialism.

Lucy Taylor at Aberystwyth Uni's work on this is really good (and readable) on the motivations and ideologies informing Y Wladfa, the impacts and relationships with indigenous people there.
https://research.aber.ac.uk/en/publ...onisation-in-patagonia-the-international-poli
https://research.aber.ac.uk/en/publ...tionships-in-nineteenth-century-patagonia-fri
https://research.aber.ac.uk/en/publ...onisation-in-patagonia-the-international-poli

 

[dragon48]

Only just got to watch it. I thought it was excellent, one of the best. The bringing together of the Welsh in Patagonia and Mendy playing in Africa both believing in their ‘home’ under the sponsorship of ‘United’ kind of says it all. Anyone notice the girl in Patagonia had a definite North Wales accent?

 

[dyf]

Luke Young got five minutes in season two and a couple of snippets here and there.

Unfortunately, we got snippets of his toes.