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I cannot help thinking that one of the main reasons for our vastly improved performance today was the balance in midfield

With Wright and Walker it is too defensive but sadly in Summerfields absence clearly the manager did not trust Deverdics. Walker offer more than Akil so all in all our best 3 in there

[QUOTE=KingConnolly;2191609]I cannot help thinking that one of the main reasons for our vastly improved performance today was the balance in midfield

With Wright and Walker it is too defensive but sadly in Summerfields absence clearly the manager did not trust Deverdics. Walker offer more than Akil so all in all our best 3 in there[/QUOTE]

Agree with this, I like Akil but Walker probably in ahead of him on merit at the moment. Think we forget how young Akil is though.
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That midfield is spot on for me. I like both wright and walker but not together one deep summerfield and allow young to push on a bit works well.
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Agree with the other posts. This is by far out best midfield. Wright and Walker play similar roles. Summerfield is quality.

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[QUOTE=benwilliams;2191610]Agree with this, I like Akil but Walker probably in ahead of him on merit at the moment. Think we forget how young Akil is though.
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The same age as walker isn’t he?

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[QUOTE=Royal welsh red;2191662]The same age as walker isn’t he?[/QUOTE]

He is but way behind in terms of first team experience as I recall.

[QUOTE=Royal welsh red;2191662]The same age as walker isn’t he?[/QUOTE]

Yes I wasn't necessarily comparing him with Walker age wise but I do think he gets an unfairly hard time given how much he has to offer and his age.
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Salford to contact Summerfield soon, offer him silly amount to ditch us in Jan. Disrupt us and halt our promotion push. Sound familiar.....

Summerfield isn't a disruptive tool though that we would allow to leave, and have learnt from that one.

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We have such a strong squad of central midfielders this season...pick any from Walker, Young, Wright, Rutherford, Summerfield, even Burgess, Deverdics and Carrington as backup-must be one of the best in the league.

[QUOTE=Flumpadinks a RED;2191665]Salford to contact Summerfield soon, offer him silly amount to ditch us in Jan. Disrupt us and halt our promotion push. Sound familiar.....

Summerfield isn't a disruptive tool though that we would allow to leave, and have learnt from that one.[/QUOTE]

Heard a rumour Salford made an approach for Rutherford but he wasn't interested.
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[QUOTE=benwilliams;2191610]Agree with this, I like Akil but Walker probably in ahead of him on merit at the moment. Think we forget how young Akil is though.
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He is 22 hardly a 'youngster'. Looking like more of a Robbie Evans type scenario atm.

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We need to be looking at making an offer for Walker after his loan runs out in Jan.

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It’s our best midfield, doesn’t take a genius.

[QUOTE=Hometown Unicorn;2191686]We need to be looking at making an offer for Walker after his loan runs out in Jan.[/QUOTE]

Definitely. He also increases the good looking quota. He’s ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Birdy;2191685]He is 22 hardly a 'youngster'. Looking like more of a Robbie Evans type scenario atm.[/QUOTE]

Young compared to you and me Birdy ;)
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[QUOTE=Birdy;2191685]He is 22 hardly a 'youngster'. Looking like more of a Robbie Evans type scenario atm.[/QUOTE]

Why can't Wxm fans accept, not every player in the squad can play. We have suffered from no strength in depth since being in the NL and now the finances have allowed us to have a 20 plus strong squad balanced with more quality, fans want to ditch players. No longer do we fall apart with 1 or 2 key players missing, we have good players to come in. Get behind these lads, they are making a decent fist of it.

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Anyone rate deverdics then ?

Get the impression he's one of the 'characters' in the squad , hence managers like him, and keep him in the 15

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[QUOTE=davewilli;2191699]Why can't Wxm fans accept, not every player in the squad can play. We have suffered from no strength in depth since being in the NL and now the finances have allowed us to have a 20 plus strong squad balanced with more quality, fans want to ditch players. No longer do we fall apart with 1 or 2 key players missing, we have good players to come in. Get behind these lads, they are making a decent fist of it.[/QUOTE]

Nothing in my post mentioned about not supporting him so don't know where you got that from. Always trying to make something out of nothing.

Replace with better when his contract is up at end of season, simple as that.

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[QUOTE=Birdy;2191685]He is 22 hardly a 'youngster'. Looking like more of a Robbie Evans type scenario atm.[/QUOTE]

I've been impressed with Wright this season. Why so quick to write him off?

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[QUOTE=Hometown Unicorn;2191686]We need to be looking at making an offer for Walker after his loan runs out in Jan.[/QUOTE]

Of all the players with us at the moment , it is Walker who has the potential to play at a higher level than all the others. He is a classic defensive midfielder, who can head the ball, break up play and pass it simple or pass it long. His weakness at the moment is a regular tendency to be complacent and get sloppy, but he is still young and developing.

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[QUOTE=EnglishRed;2191705]I've been impressed with Wright this season. Why so quick to write him off?[/QUOTE]

He only ever passes it sideways and backwards, he had a good 1st month but has gone backwards since then. Cannot play the ball forwards and continuously puts us under pressure. It was his mistake when he came on that led to the Gateshead goal.

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[QUOTE=KingConnolly;2191609]I cannot help thinking that one of the main reasons for our vastly improved performance today was the balance in midfield

With Wright and Walker it is too defensive but sadly in Summerfields absence clearly the manager did not trust Deverdics. Walker offer more than Akil so all in all our best 3 in there[/QUOTE]

Rather agree.Ricketts will undoubtedly continue with some degree of rotation,but hopefully he makes this three his preferred midfield.The two Lukes put me in mind a little,of Keates and Harris:)

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[QUOTE=ruthinred;2191703]Anyone rate deverdics then ?

Get the impression he's one of the 'characters' in the squad , hence managers like him, and keep him in the 15[/QUOTE]

You can see his ability on the ball it just hasn't worked here for him thus far, for whatever reason, maybe played out of position by DK then fitness issues early this season and now Young & Rutgers ahead of him for the no 10 role or attacking midfielder

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[QUOTE=davewilli;2191711]You can see his ability on the ball it just hasn't worked here for him thus far, for whatever reason, maybe played out of position by DK then fitness issues early this season and now Young & Rutgers ahead of him for the no 10 role or attacking midfielder[/QUOTE]

Only issue with deverdics is his relative lack of work.Good player,no doubt,but he just doesn't graft enough for me.:(

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Having a decent squad, it’s up to Deverdics to actually stake a claim.

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[QUOTE=Foxy;2191708]Of all the players with us at the moment , it is Walker who has the potential to play at a higher level than all the others. He is a classic defensive midfielder, who can head the ball, break up play and pass it simple or pass it long. His weakness at the moment is a regular tendency to be complacent and get sloppy, but he is still young and developing.[/QUOTE]

I like Walker but if this is the case why would Crewe let such a talent go?

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[QUOTE=GarryOggy;2191743]I like Walker but if this is the case why would Crewe let such a talent go?[/QUOTE]

They paid money for him and I guess he was one of their bigger earners, they have some of their own kids coming through in the same role that need developing, their Academy is draining money, so it looks like it was to free up some budget.

[QUOTE=ruthinred;2191703]Anyone rate deverdics then ?

Get the impression he's one of the 'characters' in the squad , hence managers like him, and keep him in the 15[/QUOTE]


Deverdics since being at the club has not played consistently as a squad player at the moment we may need him for injuries suspension and the FA trophy hard too judge players on 10 mins here and there, but we must have a scapegoat I suppose, it's amazing we're top of the league and people are looking at negatives.
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[QUOTE=John Neals Dynasty;2191747]Deverdics since being at the club has not played consistently as a squad player at the moment we may need him for injuries suspension and the FA trophy hard too judge players on 10 mins here and there, but we must have a scapegoat I suppose, it's amazing we're top of the league and people are looking at negatives.
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Not at all, I quite like him playing as a Forward / attacking midfielder,,

In the hole between midfield and attack


Talent there for sure

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[QUOTE=John Neals Dynasty;2191747]Deverdics since being at the club has not played consistently as a squad player at the moment we may need him for injuries suspension and the FA trophy hard too judge players on 10 mins here and there, but we must have a scapegoat I suppose, it's amazing we're top of the league and people are looking at negatives.
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There are no scapegoats only underperformers IMO.
I dont look for negatives as such but where improvements are needed.

At the moment we have more positives but doesnt mean that we cannot look at continued improvement.

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[QUOTE=dlrwrexham;2191712]Only issue with deverdics is his relative lack of work.Good player,no doubt,but he just doesn't graft enough for me.:([/QUOTE]

Sorry but midfield players that don’t graft are fatally flawed especially at this level. Not sure why you don’t doubt he is a good player because personally I have never seen him play well.

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[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2191771]Sorry but midfield players that don’t graft are fatally flawed especially at this level. Not sure why you don’t doubt he is a good player because personally I have never seen him play well.[/QUOTE]

Deverdics days are numbered. He isnt a work horse and what attributes he did have are long gone. We need better and unfortunately he will have to be offloaded.

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[QUOTE=dlrwrexham;2191710]Rather agree.Ricketts will undoubtedly continue with some degree of rotation,but hopefully he makes this three his preferred midfield.The two Lukes put me in mind a little,of Keates and Harris:)[/QUOTE]

To be mentioned in the same breath as Keates&Harris both will have to improve considerably

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[QUOTE=Foxy;2191708]Of all the players with us at the moment , it is Walker who has the potential to play at a higher level than all the others. He is a classic defensive midfielder, who can head the ball, break up play and pass it simple or pass it long. His weakness at the moment is a regular tendency to be complacent and get sloppy, but he is still young and developing.[/QUOTE]

I think Lainton easily could

[QUOTE=John Neals Dynasty;2191747]Deverdics since being at the club has not played consistently as a squad player at the moment we may need him for injuries suspension and the FA trophy hard too judge players on 10 mins here and there, but we must have a scapegoat I suppose, it's amazing we're top of the league and people are looking at negatives.
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1. He started loads of games last season and was rubbish. He has started games this season and been truly awful. An absolute fraud.
2. Ten minutes here and there should still give him the opportunity to show what he can do. Yesterday with the game poised at a nervous 2-1, he got the ball on the right with Jennings in acres of space on the left. The stage wa set for him to use his legendary left peg to switch play. Instead he smashed it into some players.
3. He reminds me of Silvio Spann. The worst ever Wrexham player.
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[QUOTE=foreverared;2191779]I think Lainton easily could[/QUOTE]

PV fans rated him and he was classsed as first choice, but he was always injured. Hopefully, his luck has changed and he has more than proved his fitness, but it doesn't impede SDR retaining/signing him.

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[QUOTE=krux;2191783]1. He started loads of games last season and was rubbish. He has started games this season and been truly awful. An absolute fraud.
2. Ten minutes here and there should still give him the opportunity to show what he can do. Yesterday with the game poised at a nervous 2-1, he got the ball on the right with Jennings in acres of space on the left. The stage wa set for him to use his legendary left peg to switch play. Instead he smashed it into some players.
3. He reminds me of Silvio Spann. The worst ever Wrexham player.
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You maybe correct but at Spann was given numerous games in his favoured position. He hasn't done himself any favours here, but apart from a couple games in centre mid he has played wide left and a few cameo appearances wide right. Pre-season it looked like SDR wanted him as his number 10 and he may have stepped up to the plate but injury ruined that. Currently he is useful to have around because he can do a job in midfield, most attacking areas and left back if needed. SDR will decide if he needs to free up his wages, but I don't see any harm having him around, similarly to when popular opinion on here was to get rid of Ruthers and Carra.

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I’ve seen worse players than Spann! How’s about Bakare?

[QUOTE=davewilli;2191785]You maybe correct but at Spann was given numerous games in his favoured position. He hasn't done himself any favours here, but apart from a couple games in centre mid he has played wide left and a few cameo appearances wide right. Pre-season it looked like SDR wanted him as his number 10 and he may have stepped up to the plate but injury ruined that. Currently he is useful to have around because he can do a job in midfield, most attacking areas and left back if needed. SDR will decide if he needs to free up his wages, but I don't see any harm having him around, similarly to when popular opinion on here was to get rid of Ruthers and Carra.[/QUOTE]

I don't buy this 'favoured position' business. If he's an attacking midfielder and he's asked to play out wide, then that to me is close enough. It should give him the chance to show his attacking passing skills. It's not like he was playing centre half.

I dread to think what he would be like at LB. Though he would probably be good at hoofing it down the line.
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[QUOTE=riccardo;2191787]I’ve seen worse players than Spann! How’s about Bakare?[/QUOTE]

Bakare wasn't on a 3 year big money (presumably) contract.

On the playing front they were similar. You cant say bakare was worse.
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