Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2274273]You've been lied too, no shock there. Join the Welsh System and we get more protections on paper, also via the conventional way it's done other clubs no harm and could see them making tidy sums a la Danny Ward.

Nobody on the football board is ars*d, easier making excuses. We do the same to WPL clubs, but they don't moan about it, the irony eh? All because we're able to due FIFA rules and other clubs in England can't take them or they leave with there clubs blessing. Basically WPL clubs do all our scouting for us, we then arrange games via twitter with these sides, should a lad impress he usual makes the move.

The best bit is the likes of Everton and Liverpool look to pay us fees regardless, but we can't even be bothered to reply back, so miss out.

Once 17 my understanding is lads can sign pro contracts too, plenty of ways around things, but like said easier blaming someone else.

All very amateur and pathetic, rather play in the college leagues or no league than join the structured Welsh system. All because of what a small minority will say...[/QUOTE]

You really do have a lot of detail there. Are these all facts, or hearsay? For example, you mention Everton and Liverpool offering fees and they're not been followed up? From what I've seen, the club board chase every penny. As for signing as a pro at 17, why should that be automatic? If they're good enough then sign them, but my understanding is that the League clubs tap up the parents anyway. In fact, I believe Everton scouts were banned from Colliers because of that type of approach. I guess there are may interpretations of facts its just who you get them from.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2274306]Can we join the Welsh set up being a club who plays in the English leagues? Do other Welsh teams who play in the English leagues do this? Interested to know.[/QUOTE]

Yes and Colwyn Bay definitely did + Methyr off the top of my head.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=Oldfan;2274309]You really do have a lot of detail there. Are these all facts, or hearsay? For example, you mention Everton and Liverpool offering fees and they're not been followed up? From what I've seen, the club board chase every penny. As for signing as a pro at 17, why should that be automatic? If they're good enough then sign them, but my understanding is that the League clubs tap up the parents anyway. In fact, I believe Everton scouts were banned from Colliers because of that type of approach. I guess there are may interpretations of facts its just who you get them from.[/QUOTE]

All are fact, another poster who tried to pass it off as hearsay was offered the opportunity to pop down Colliers to look at correspondences by someone far more in the know than most on the CoE a while back from what I remember. Unsurprisingly, I dont think that offer was take up, the person who offered has no association with the club anymore sadly.

Who said it should be automatic? Plenty of ways around things as stated, it's easier not to bother though.

God help these young lads if we do reach the EFL once again, two contracts can be handed out, one forbidding a young lad once released from ever signing for another professional football club. I hope we dont use such contracts ever! The other requires a club to basically confirm their release so they can play else where, however when correspondences aren't replied to or it takes months opportunities are often lost.

If they chase every penny, and I know this was suggested. Why haven't they seemed out a sponsor for the CoE? They have one for practically everything else. Best bit is they refused to do this ffs!

We were also promised more news on the CoE, it was a promising start, but because on the whole some sides struggled. That information once again like has become far too common a theme has been withheld again.


How do the board expect to drum up interest when it goes unreported, only the die hards know what the odd result was. RP alone used to pump in a lot of cash, not anymore and I dont see any chasing going to get it going again. Chester up the road take every opportunity to shout about their academy which is paying dividends in keeping it going, over a 1000 people attended one youth game against Gateshead a few months back which generated a fair bit of money for their academy.

No such forward thinking at Wrexham, let alone leadership, all seems a bit rudderless.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2274317]Yes and Colwyn Bay definitely did + Methyr off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]

What does “join the Welsh set-up” mean?

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=Todd Sweeney;2274324]What does “join the Welsh set-up” mean?[/QUOTE]

Joing their Youth system structure, leagues etc. Also potentially it could offer a lot of protections due to FIFA rules

May as well now, at least they'll be gurantees on games not 'Penycae have said on twitter they may be available this Saturday'!

Are board are scared of what a small minority might say about signing up to the FAW youth system. Truly is sad, rather play in a college league instead and arrange games on a ad hoc bases via twitter like amateur clubs arrange friendlies.

No wonder lads look to leave at the first opportunity, Leo Smith publicly venting his frustrations on a lack of game time youd think would see things being done to change.

The board have read the comments, they know all about it by now, but can't be ars*d even investigating it.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2274328]Joing their Youth system structure, leagues etc. Also potentially it could offer a lot of protections due to FIFA rules

May as well now, at least they'll be gurantees on games not 'Penycae have said on twitter they may be available this Saturday'!

Are board are scared of what a small minority might say about signing up to the FAW youth system. Truly is sad, rather play in a college league instead and arrange games on a ad hoc bases via twitter like amateur clubs arrange friendlies.

No wonder lads look to leave at the first opportunity, Leo Smith publicly venting his frustrations on a lack of game time youd think would see things being done to change.

The board have read the comments, they know all about it by now, but can't be ars*d even investigating it.[/QUOTE]

Is it that the board don't want to tie themselves to the Welsh system as they want to be able to rejoin the English system and benefit from the large £'s on offer when we are eventually promoted?

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=Haruki;2274329]Is it that the board don't want to tie themselves to the Welsh system as they want to be able to rejoin the English system and benefit from the large £'s on offer when we are eventually promoted?[/QUOTE]

From what I understand we can leave when we achieve promotion, nothing stopping us at all.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2274328]Joing their Youth system structure, leagues etc. Also potentially it could offer a lot of protections due to FIFA rules

May as well now, at least they'll be gurantees on games not 'Penycae have said on twitter they may be available this Saturday'!

Are board are scared of what a small minority might say about signing up to the FAW youth system. Truly is sad, rather play in a college league instead and arrange games on a ad hoc bases via twitter like amateur clubs arrange friendlies.

No wonder lads look to leave at the first opportunity, Leo Smith publicly venting his frustrations on a lack of game time youd think would see things being done to change.

The board have read the comments, they know all about it by now, but can't be ars*d even investigating it.[/QUOTE]

That would seem a short-sighted/short-term/untenable move since our overriding aim is to get back into the EFL. I can see why it would work for Colwyn Bay and for Merthyr as they have no hope of ever playing in the EFL. I can’t see how it would work for us.

Re: Scott butler
 

[QUOTE=Todd Sweeney;2274331]That would seem a short-sighted/short-term/untenable move since our overriding aim is to get back into the EFL. I can see why it would work for Colwyn Bay and for Merthyr as they have no hope of ever playing in the EFL. I can’t see how it would work for us.[/QUOTE]

12 years ??