Ifor Williams to be next years kit sponsor?! Leaked by the leader. - Page 4 - RedPassion.co.uk

DraigGoch · 27th May 2017, 12.15:50

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Originally Posted by dyf

Glad the logo isn't too big, was afraid it would ruin the look of the kit but if that's anything to go by it looks great

Vorporix · 27th May 2017, 12.59:24

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Originally Posted by cynprifathro

Well done Ivor Williams!

Seconded - I hear there are more than a few Wrexham supporters working there as well!

Wrexham's Patrick Bateman · 27th May 2017, 18.17:04

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Originally Posted by Dai Pad

Mint condition though!

Aha....Two days later....I get it..........It was a Polo shirt.,..

kevlyd · 27th May 2017, 20.04:15

There are a number of us that work in Ifor Williams and are pleased the company sponsor Wrexham, others are not so happy but you can't please everyone I'm sure there are people working in factories all round wrexham would like their bosses to sponsor the team but the chances of meeting the people that matter never happens, we are quite lucky that the link from shopfloor to the owners is made up of Wrexham supporters.

paddockgraham · 27th May 2017, 22.07:23

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Originally Posted by kevlyd

There are a number of us that work in Ifor Williams and are pleased the company sponsor Wrexham, others are not so happy but you can't please everyone I'm sure there are people working in factories all round wrexham would like their bosses to sponsor the team but the chances of meeting the people that matter never happens, we are quite lucky that the link from shopfloor to the owners is made up of Wrexham supporters.

heard bad things about how they treat production staff, no contracts, poor wages, instances of being dismissed for things such as stuck in the snow for being late, is this true?

Wrexham's Patrick Bateman · 27th May 2017, 22.28:30

Don't like knocking a company sponsoring WFC. But my lad had a job in the Cynwyd factory, few years ago...Wasn't allowed to park his car on company property, and reckoned the place was horrendous...

Stuck it for 2days.....

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo · 27th May 2017, 23.32:06

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Originally Posted by paddockgraham

heard bad things about how they treat production staff, no contracts, poor wages, instances of being dismissed for things such as stuck in the snow for being late, is this true?

Yes, it's biting them on the ar*e currently. Full timers getting preferential treatment too, like free Wrexham shirts while agency workers got nothing which is a big no no legally. Even worse when some have been there for as long as 5 years and been offered nothing permanent.

kevlyd · 28th May 2017, 06.58:09

There are always two sides to a story, I have worked in cynwyd for 15 years as have a number of men , one guy finished on Friday been there 40 years ,it is very true they are not the most sympathetic to individual needs but to say it's horrendous is a bit of an overstatement,to say full timers get preferential treatment is far from the truth, with the shirts it's where do you stop the owners bought 1200 shirts for the men , the agency lads are employed by Gap not Ifors, the issue as I see it is some lads don't want to travel 30 / 40 minutes to work , can't understand the timekeeping rules of the company and would rather just stroll in when they like, there are some very good agency workers in the factory And are truly deserving of full time employment and we can't understand the company's thinking, the sponsorship is a separate issue to how the company is run,and all I know is the owners are pleased to do it , I've heard all the stories from quite a few people on why they do it, tax reasons and the like but I genuinely believe they do it for the right reasons.

paddockgraham · 29th May 2017, 23.20:31

they do it to avoid redundancy payments, pension payments, sick pay, and can sack people on the spot with no comeback. Contracts will soon be a thing of the past in production work.

Not the best pay there either.

They are not allowed by law to give anything more to a permanent worker than a temporary one, although the law is not enforced in employment much anymore under the last 2 governments, its like it or lump it

The lad I knew was only 19, fought his way through that really bad snow we had around the F.A Trophy final, made it there somehow after a couple of hours in treacherous conditions over 20 miles, only to be told at end of shift don't come back tommorrow.

Not a great company for us to be associated with community wise based on its ethics.

27th May 2017, 20.04:15	#31-0 (permalink)
kevlyd Squad Player Joined: Dec 2012 Racecourse Spot: mold road Real Name: Kevin Twitter: @	Re: Ifor Williams to be next years kit sponsor?! Leaked by the leader. There are a number of us that work in Ifor Williams and are pleased the company sponsor Wrexham, others are not so happy but you can't please everyone I'm sure there are people working in factories all round wrexham would like their bosses to sponsor the team but the chances of meeting the people that matter never happens, we are quite lucky that the link from shopfloor to the owners is made up of Wrexham supporters.

27th May 2017, 22.28:30	#33-0 (permalink)
Wrexham's Patrick Bateman Legend Joined: Jun 2009 Racecourse Spot: MRS Near Kop end Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: Ifor Williams to be next years kit sponsor?! Leaked by the leader. Don't like knocking a company sponsoring WFC. But my lad had a job in the Cynwyd factory, few years ago...Wasn't allowed to park his car on company property, and reckoned the place was horrendous... Stuck it for 2days..... __________________ Always right... FACT

28th May 2017, 06.58:09	#35-0 (permalink)
kevlyd Squad Player Joined: Dec 2012 Racecourse Spot: mold road Real Name: Kevin Twitter: @	Re: Ifor Williams to be next years kit sponsor?! Leaked by the leader. There are always two sides to a story, I have worked in cynwyd for 15 years as have a number of men , one guy finished on Friday been there 40 years ,it is very true they are not the most sympathetic to individual needs but to say it's horrendous is a bit of an overstatement,to say full timers get preferential treatment is far from the truth, with the shirts it's where do you stop the owners bought 1200 shirts for the men , the agency lads are employed by Gap not Ifors, the issue as I see it is some lads don't want to travel 30 / 40 minutes to work , can't understand the timekeeping rules of the company and would rather just stroll in when they like, there are some very good agency workers in the factory And are truly deserving of full time employment and we can't understand the company's thinking, the sponsorship is a separate issue to how the company is run,and all I know is the owners are pleased to do it , I've heard all the stories from quite a few people on why they do it, tax reasons and the like but I genuinely believe they do it for the right reasons.

29th May 2017, 23.20:31	#36-0 (permalink)
paddockgraham User Joined: Oct 2009 Racecourse Spot: Paddock of course Real Name: HenryJ Twitter: @	Re: Ifor Williams to be next years kit sponsor?! Leaked by the leader. they do it to avoid redundancy payments, pension payments, sick pay, and can sack people on the spot with no comeback. Contracts will soon be a thing of the past in production work. Not the best pay there either. They are not allowed by law to give anything more to a permanent worker than a temporary one, although the law is not enforced in employment much anymore under the last 2 governments, its like it or lump it The lad I knew was only 19, fought his way through that really bad snow we had around the F.A Trophy final, made it there somehow after a couple of hours in treacherous conditions over 20 miles, only to be told at end of shift don't come back tommorrow. Not a great company for us to be associated with community wise based on its ethics.