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Old 24th May 2019, 18.04:27   #64-0 (permalink)
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It’s on the club’s website:

“Wrexham AFC Limited is a 100% subsidiary of Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited that trades as Wrexham Supporters Trust. Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited is incorporated under the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1965 to 1978, registration number IP29366R. The shares of Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited have the nominal value of £1 each and may not be transferred or withdrawn. No member may hold more than one share individually or jointly.”

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Thought I remembered a £1 thing. So that must be for anyone that has ever been a member. I assume held in a trust type fund.
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Thought I remembered a £1 thing. So that must be for anyone that has ever been a member. I assume held in a trust type fund.
Once you stop being a member, you lose your share.
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Once you stop being a member, you lose your share.
Ah. So the £1 is lost?
Seems we need a better structure than this.
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Ah. So the £1 is lost?
Seems we need a better structure than this.
The £1 is just a nominal value. When it says it can’t be withdrawn, it means you can’t sell your share and get your £1 back, or take the share out and sell it to someone else.

This is the legal structure that co-operatives have to adhere to as outlined in the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1965 to 1978. Which bit of it do you think can be made better? If your argument is that you don’t want the club to be owned by a co-operative then that’s a different issue.

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The £1 is just a nominal value. When it says it can’t be withdrawn, it means you can’t sell your share and get your £1 back, or take the share out and sell it to someone else.

This is the legal structure that co-operatives have to adhere to as outlined in the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1965 to 1978. Which bit of it do you think can be made better? If your argument is that you don’t want the club to be owned by a co-operative then that’s a different issue.
I guess if we opened up a share system then it would be a lot more complex.
Only just really thinking about it so not sure about the co-op argument. Would like to understand anything legally.
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We don’t want more of the same, we need fresh input from people who actually have the skills to carry out the job. Not more cock ups and cover ups, we need somebody strong enough to ask questions of the other members and improve dialogue between the board and its 3500 owners.
It’s not going to happen . They don’t do humility, accountability, apologies, reviews, introspection, reflection, self assessment, or any other mode that could possibly lead to an improvement or a different approach. All they do is arrogance, arrogance, arrogance....spin, spin, spin, and yet more arrogance.

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It’s on the club’s website:

“Wrexham AFC Limited is a 100% subsidiary of Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited that trades as Wrexham Supporters Trust. Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited is incorporated under the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1965 to 1978, registration number IP29366R. The shares of Wrexham Football Supporters' Society Limited have the nominal value of £1 each and may not be transferred or withdrawn. No member may hold more than one share individually or jointly.”

https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/club/contact-us
But are the £1 shares effectively in the WST or Wrexham AFC?
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It’s not going to happen . They don’t do humility, accountability, apologies, reviews, introspection, reflection, self assessment, or any other mode that could possibly lead to an improvement or a different approach. All they do is arrogance, arrogance, arrogance....spin, spin, spin, and yet more arrogance.
You sound like an ideal board candidate
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