Dover Results

[draigwrecsam]

Originally Posted by Wyn

If Dover’s results are expunged we have 36 points from 24 games.
Chesterfield remain the same as they haven’t played Dover yet. 33 points from 22 matches gives them a ppg of 1.5, same as us.

Since they have a better goal difference they would therefore finish above us.?

I agree, with an unweighted PPG, but I use a weighted PPG (which the League copied last season) which gives us a few hudredths more points than Chesterfield. As I said in my post, if you round the points total we drop below Chesterfield.

[mitchelltown]

Originally Posted by draigwrecsam

I agree, with an unweighted PPG, but I use a weighted PPG (which the League copied last season) which gives us a few hudredths more points than Chesterfield. As I said in my post, if you round the points total we drop below Chesterfield.

I didn't realise my original post would bring about such in depth thinking.
Could it be that Keates is using a weighted system instead of a unweighted one.

[draigwrecsam]

Originally Posted by mitchelltown

I didn't realise my original post would bring about such in depth thinking...

That'll teach you!

[bartonbank]

Below is how the table would look, as of today's date, if Dover's results are expunged. Those teams who have their points altered are marked with an asterix:

1. Sutton United 22 14 4 4 +20 46
2. Torquay United 23 13 5 5 +20 44*
3. Hartlepool United 25 13 5 7 +10 44
4. Notts County 21 11 5 5 +12 38*
5. Eastleigh 23 10 8 5 +9 38*
6. Stockport County 23 10 7 6 +8 37*
7. Wrexham 24 10 6 8 +5 36*
8. Boreham Wood 24 9 7 8 +4 34*
9. Chesterfield 22 10 3 9 +8 33
10. Altrincham 26 9 6 11 -4 33*
11. Yeovil Town 24 9 5 10 0 32*
12. Maidenhead United 21 9 5 7 0 32
13. FC Halifax Town 23 8 7 8 +7 31
14. Bromley 23 8 7 8 +5 31*
15. Aldershot Town 23 9 4 10 -4 31*
16. Solihull Moors 21 8 4 9 +1 28*
17. Dagenham & Redbridge 23 7 5 11 -10 26*
18. Wealdstone 23 7 5 11 -18 26
19. Woking 21 6 5 10 -6 23*
20. King's Lynn Town 21 5 5 11 -16 20
21. Weymouth 24 5 5 14 -14 20
22. Barnet 22 3 3 16 -37 12*
I cannot see any way for Dover to complete the season and we know their are mutterings by other teams, almost certainly because it was thought there would be no relegation. However, now there is talk of some football returning in Step 2 and there would only be games if there were promotion and, if so, there will be relegation from Step 1.


Following on from that, Skybet have a market to win the league with e/w 1/5th top three. The odds are as follows: Sutton 2.38
Torquay 3.25
Stockport County 6.00
Notts County 8.00
Hartlepool 10.00
Chesterfield 23.00
Solihull 51.00
Boreham Wood 151.00
Wrexham 151.00
Eastleigh 201.00
Bromley 251.00
Halifax 251.00
Maidenhead 501.00

Now, I know that we have lost 3 points if Dover go, and I know that, unlike other teams, we cannot sign players outside the window unless they were without a club when the transfer window closed, but Wrexham at 151:00 to win, but in reality trying for top 3 at place odds of 51:00, seems huge. And, if that is huge, then Eastleigh, two points more and having played 1 game less, is even more value. Against that, the odds on Solihull are completely the other way, looking at where they would be.

[Cymro]

Originally Posted by bartonbank

Below is how the table would look, as of today's date, if Dover's results are expunged. Those teams who have their points altered are marked with an asterix:

1. Sutton United 22 14 4 4 +20 46
2. Torquay United 23 13 5 5 +20 44*
3. Hartlepool United 25 13 5 7 +10 44
4. Notts County 21 11 5 5 +12 38*
5. Eastleigh 23 10 8 5 +9 38*
6. Stockport County 23 10 7 6 +8 37*
7. Wrexham 24 10 6 8 +5 36*
8. Boreham Wood 24 9 7 8 +4 34*
9. Chesterfield 22 10 3 9 +8 33
10. Altrincham 26 9 6 11 -4 33*
11. Yeovil Town 24 9 5 10 0 32*
12. Maidenhead United 21 9 5 7 0 32
13. FC Halifax Town 23 8 7 8 +7 31
14. Bromley 23 8 7 8 +5 31*
15. Aldershot Town 23 9 4 10 -4 31*
16. Solihull Moors 21 8 4 9 +1 28*
17. Dagenham & Redbridge 23 7 5 11 -10 26*
18. Wealdstone 23 7 5 11 -18 26
19. Woking 21 6 5 10 -6 23*
20. King's Lynn Town 21 5 5 11 -16 20
21. Weymouth 24 5 5 14 -14 20
22. Barnet 22 3 3 16 -37 12*
I cannot see any way for Dover to complete the season and we know their are mutterings by other teams, almost certainly because it was thought there would be no relegation. However, now there is talk of some football returning in Step 2 and there would only be games if there were promotion and, if so, there will be relegation from Step 1.


Following on from that, Skybet have a market to win the league with e/w 1/5th top three. The odds are as follows: Sutton 2.38
Torquay 3.25
Stockport County 6.00
Notts County 8.00
Hartlepool 10.00
Chesterfield 23.00
Solihull 51.00
Boreham Wood 151.00
Wrexham 151.00
Eastleigh 201.00
Bromley 251.00
Halifax 251.00
Maidenhead 501.00

Now, I know that we have lost 3 points if Dover go, and I know that, unlike other teams, we cannot sign players outside the window unless they were without a club when the transfer window closed, but Wrexham at 151:00 to win, but in reality trying for top 3 at place odds of 51:00, seems huge. And, if that is huge, then Eastleigh, two points more and having played 1 game less, is even more value. Against that, the odds on Solihull are completely the other way, looking at where they would be.

Bloody hell. Whoever said football is a simple game?

[Wyn]

Originally Posted by draigwrecsam

I agree, with an unweighted PPG, but I use a weighted PPG (which the League copied last season) which gives us a few hudredths more points than Chesterfield. As I said in my post, if you round the points total we drop below Chesterfield.

Fair play, I didn’t realise they weighted the ppg between home and away games remaining/. Makes sense!

[moynkeepthefaith]

Originally Posted by bartonbank

Below is how the table would look, as of today's date, if Dover's results are expunged. Those teams who have their points altered are marked with an asterix:

1. Sutton United 22 14 4 4 +20 46
2. Torquay United 23 13 5 5 +20 44*
3. Hartlepool United 25 13 5 7 +10 44
4. Notts County 21 11 5 5 +12 38*
5. Eastleigh 23 10 8 5 +9 38*
6. Stockport County 23 10 7 6 +8 37*
7. Wrexham 24 10 6 8 +5 36*
8. Boreham Wood 24 9 7 8 +4 34*
9. Chesterfield 22 10 3 9 +8 33
10. Altrincham 26 9 6 11 -4 33*
11. Yeovil Town 24 9 5 10 0 32*
12. Maidenhead United 21 9 5 7 0 32
13. FC Halifax Town 23 8 7 8 +7 31
14. Bromley 23 8 7 8 +5 31*
15. Aldershot Town 23 9 4 10 -4 31*
16. Solihull Moors 21 8 4 9 +1 28*
17. Dagenham & Redbridge 23 7 5 11 -10 26*
18. Wealdstone 23 7 5 11 -18 26
19. Woking 21 6 5 10 -6 23*
20. King's Lynn Town 21 5 5 11 -16 20
21. Weymouth 24 5 5 14 -14 20
22. Barnet 22 3 3 16 -37 12*
I cannot see any way for Dover to complete the season and we know their are mutterings by other teams, almost certainly because it was thought there would be no relegation. However, now there is talk of some football returning in Step 2 and there would only be games if there were promotion and, if so, there will be relegation from Step 1.


Following on from that, Skybet have a market to win the league with e/w 1/5th top three. The odds are as follows: Sutton 2.38
Torquay 3.25
Stockport County 6.00
Notts County 8.00
Hartlepool 10.00
Chesterfield 23.00
Solihull 51.00
Boreham Wood 151.00
Wrexham 151.00
Eastleigh 201.00
Bromley 251.00
Halifax 251.00
Maidenhead 501.00

Now, I know that we have lost 3 points if Dover go, and I know that, unlike other teams, we cannot sign players outside the window unless they were without a club when the transfer window closed, but Wrexham at 151:00 to win, but in reality trying for top 3 at place odds of 51:00, seems huge. And, if that is huge, then Eastleigh, two points more and having played 1 game less, is even more value. Against that, the odds on Solihull are completely the other way, looking at where they would be.

A million each way ? Then we could really incentivise the players