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Old 22nd September 2021, 06.44:02   #91-0 (permalink)
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I think the figures Newport red gave are similar to the figures, the marketing agency I used to work for charged..

Northwalian dragon is coming from it from the other direction.

What none of us know is what's included in the 5k. or that matter how was the cost apportioned. Eg did mark include a seat on the bus in the budget. You may snigger but that was probably £200+ a season. Hotel Accomodation and meals are probably another £1k. Did they charge out a home game seat with electric £300 etc. Did he charge out desk space?

None of us know.
Unless WAFC budgeting is absolutely ridiculous then I doubt the accommodation and transport came from the media team budget.

I am utterly amazed at the amount of complaints over the quality of content produced and yet the belief that 5k is a remotely reasonable budget for a media team at a club as newly high profile as ours.
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We are a football club not a multinational. £5000 is more than enough decent equipment and for someone to do their stuff on matchday. It doesn't need to be a paid role, perfect for an aspiring media student at uni to gain experience on the side or even someone who is good at this sort of thing and does it in their spare time.
Do you want good media, or a student project? 5k per season is nothing.

Talk about thinking small.
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Unless WAFC budgeting is absolutely ridiculous then I doubt the accommodation and transport came from the media team budget.

I am utterly amazed at the amount of complaints over the quality of content produced and yet the belief that 5k is a remotely reasonable budget for a media team at a club as newly high profile as ours.
The £5k was during the wst running the show.

Most industry standard accounting packages let you apportion costs to a particular department. Helpful.
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Sounds like a serious organisation trying hard to please it’s media and it’s stakeholders while driving marketing opportunities. No sports fan north of Brecon should be on Facebook without seeing a Wrexham advert. Perhaps the budget would even pay for some way of monitoring this cess pit, reminding Fleur that she’s got an email from Mikeyyy
We're talking pre-takover the budget was 5k. - certainly, with 2 full-time paid staff the budget has shot up dramatically.

I agree that we're a completely different beast but 5k per year before this takeover was very very healthy. The absolute basics have been neglected. Even with £0 budget on a completely voluntary basis, you'd expect interviews to be exposed and white balanced correctly.

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Do you want good media, or a student project? 5k per season is nothing.

Talk about thinking small.
Utter nonsense. Some of the stuff we've been served up is below a student project standard. Paying out 5k for it is ridiculous. I'd love to know what it's been spent on
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We're talking pre-takover the budget was 5k. - certainly, with 2 full-time paid staff the budget has shot up dramatically.

I agree that we're a completely different beast but 5k per year before this takeover was very very healthy. The absolute basics have been neglected. Even with £0 budget on a completely voluntary basis, you'd expect interviews to be exposed and white balanced correctly.

For 5k a year we were being served up this:







Utter nonsense. Some of the stuff we've been served up is below a student project standard. Paying out 5k for it is ridiculous. I'd love to know what it's been spent on
what the fk was that,id missed that little gem,good god 5k for that,where do you start with that effort??
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Utter nonsense. Some of the stuff we've been served up is below a student project standard. Paying out 5k for it is ridiculous. I'd love to know what it's been spent on
I don’t disagree but Birdy was saying why don’t we get a student in, or a hobbyist for free. That would be crazy and I doubt it would give the quality we deserve.
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I don’t disagree but Birdy was saying why don’t we get a student in, or a hobbyist for free. That would be crazy and I doubt it would give the quality we deserve.
It's not crazy when you think they would do a better job for free than what we are getting served up atm.

I bet the Grimsby fan's video which was excellent is done by a guy giving his time to the club or at the very least he is getting paid minimal money for it.
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It's not crazy when you think they would do a better job for free than what we are getting served up atm.

I bet the Grimsby fan's video which was excellent is done by a guy giving his time to the club or at the very least he is getting paid minimal money for it.
Looking at the Grimsby official YouTube, I don’t think it’s just a bloke doing the club a favour.
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I don’t disagree but Birdy was saying why don’t we get a student in, or a hobbyist for free. That would be crazy and I doubt it would give the quality we deserve.
The most frustrating thing is that the absolute basics can be done by literally anyone. There are so many free resources, templates, tutorials, forums etc.

It comes down to a lack of care and low standards

Both Birdy and yourself are right. Free work from students would be ten times the quality of what we've been putting out. But we couldn't get students to do it for free for a whole year though. But with good management we could absolutely thrive off of 5k annually.
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