Eye catching Ollie Palmer stat

[davewilli]

Not sure why Dalby is getting such bad press, we have won plenty of games with him playing. Yes the Ollie stat is eye opening , but we have lost games previously with Ollie partnering Mullin and this season we have lost games with Fletcher partnering Mullin.

There are always plenty of factors into poor or inconsistent results, our ls this season could have been down to numerous factors, i.e. poor pre-season prep,the step up in leagues, sending offs, an unsettled back 3 until recently, key players injured, lwb playing at rwb, January signings taking time to get upto speed.

[rob_the_red]

Originally Posted by davewilli

Not sure why Dalby is getting such bad press, we have won plenty of games with him playing. Yes the Ollie stat is eye opening , but we have lost games previously with Ollie partnering Mullin and this season we have lost games with Fletcher partnering Mullin.

There are always plenty of factors into poor or inconsistent results, our ls this season could have been down to numerous factors, i.e. poor pre-season prep,the step up in leagues, sending offs, an unsettled back 3 until recently, key players injured, lwb playing at rwb, January signings taking time to get upto speed.

I don't think he is getting bad press particularly , it's a thread about how remarkably successful we are when Ollie starts .... more so than any other forward option along side Mullin ..... and the one who results in Mullin scoring more regularly than any other


Sam is fine at what he does, but he doesn't offer was much as Ollie does and has done for the past couple of years


For mw the jury is still out on Sam , but it's pretty conclusive that Ollie is our best option to start up front when ever he's fit along side SPM

[WREX01]

Originally Posted by rob_the_red

I don't think he is getting bad press particularly , it's a thread about how remarkably successful we are when Ollie starts .... more so than any other forward option along side Mullin ..... and the one who results in Mullin scoring more regularly than any other


Sam is fine at what he does, but he doesn't offer was much as Ollie does and has done for the past couple of years


For mw the jury is still out on Sam , but it's pretty conclusive that Ollie is our best option to start up front when ever he's fit along side SPM

Is Sam really fine at what he does though ?

[rob_the_red]

Originally Posted by WREX01

Is Sam really fine at what he does though ?

When you play the ball into his feet , he's decent .. he's also good at the little Flick on header that play other players in ( IF he can get there to connect to the ball ) .... he's not as bad as some make out , but he doesn't have the work rate , physicality or intensity that other have ... we're a weaker side when he plays at the moment ... for me he's best brought on when we're well in control of a game and the opposition are chasing the game - that gives him more space to be more effective - other than in that situation , at the moment I wouldn't play him right now


It's a no brainer really - Ollie starts , Fletch comes on with 20 to go if both of them are fit ....


I've said for some time , Dalby should be out on loan getting more experience and adding some intensity and physicality to his game

[Prodigal Dragon]

Correlation or causation? Stats can prove anything depending on how they are presented.

With only 2 other realistic options to start alongside Mullin, one could argue Palmer is the best option.

Fletcher would, by far, be the better option if he were 3 years younger, but he cannot last 90 minutes, and is better coming off the bench to take advantage of a tiring defence.

Dalby blows hot and cold, and doesn't score!

Alternatively, Palmer has scored 6 to Dalby's 5.

Mansfield have slow, lumbering CBs, so 2 quick strikers (Mullin and Marriott) might be a better option.

Whatever starting-XI PP chooses, we are in for a battle royal. Let's hope we can bag a stag or 2! More in-depth T's & P's about Friday's 6-pointer, later!

[t1954]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

Correlation or causation? Stats can prove anything depending on how they are presented.

With only 2 other realistic options to start alongside Mullin, one could argue Palmer is the best option.

Fletcher would, by far, be the better option if he were 3 years younger, but he cannot last 90 minutes, and is better coming off the bench to take advantage of a tiring defence.

Dalby blows hot and cold, and doesn't score!

Alternatively, Palmer has scored 6 to Dalby's 5.

Mansfield have slow, lumbering CBs, so 2 quick strikers (Mullin and Marriott) might be a better option.

Whatever starting-XI PP chooses, we are in for a battle royal. Let's hope we can bag a stag or 2! More in-depth T's & P's about Friday's 6-pointer, later!

Glad you are not picking the team.

[rob_the_red]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Dragon

Correlation or causation? Stats can prove anything depending on how they are presented.

With only 2 other realistic options to start alongside Mullin, one could argue Palmer is the best option.

Fletcher would, by far, be the better option if he were 3 years younger, but he cannot last 90 minutes, and is better coming off the bench to take advantage of a tiring defence.

Dalby blows hot and cold, and doesn't score!

Alternatively, Palmer has scored 6 to Dalby's 5.

Mansfield have slow, lumbering CBs, so 2 quick strikers (Mullin and Marriott) might be a better option.

Whatever starting-XI PP chooses, we are in for a battle royal. Let's hope we can bag a stag or 2! More in-depth T's & P's about Friday's 6-pointer, later!

you could also look a little further than just the win stats with Ollie ......

Wimbledon doing fine with him .. he leaves and they fail to win a game .....

at the same time , we were suffering with inconsistency before he came in , he comes in and we go on a steak that nearly won us the league and then was a big part of us actually winning it the following season .....I think it's pretty conclusive that we're a better side with Ollie starting ( agree on Fletcher too though - although a 3 years younger fletcher would likely be playing in the championship ...... and sadly , Sam is much more cold than hot now )

[davewilli]

Originally Posted by rob_the_red

you could also look a little further than just the win stats with Ollie ......

Wimbledon doing fine with him .. he leaves and they fail to win a game .....

at the same time , we were suffering with inconsistency before he came in , he comes in and we go on a steak that nearly won us the league and then was a big part of us actually winning it the following season .....I think it's pretty conclusive that we're a better side with Ollie starting ( agree on Fletcher too though - although a 3 years younger fletcher would likely be playing in the championship ...... and sadly , Sam is much more cold than hot now )

Like all strikers, particularly young strikers, they thrive on confidence and if they are not getting the opportunities it knocks them back. Dalby's build up play is fine, he has shown that with Mullin and Bickerstaff in games this season Where he needs to work is having the belief and confidence to get in between the sticks more and getting on the end of things. It's going to be hard with Ollie and Fletch fit, but Parky seems to rate him so he needs to keep hanging in there. I think the last couple of opportunities he has had to start he was sacrificed early after Boyles dismissals.

[rob_the_red]

Originally Posted by davewilli

Like all strikers, particularly young strikers, they thrive on confidence and if they are not getting the opportunities it knocks them back. Dalby's build up play is fine, he has shown that with Mullin and Bickerstaff in games this season Where he needs to work is having the belief and confidence to get in between the sticks more and getting on the end of things. It's going to be hard with Ollie and Fletch fit, but Parky seems to rate him so he needs to keep hanging in there. I think the last couple of opportunities he has had to start he was sacrificed early after Boyles dismissals.

He also needs to work on his general movement , effort & pace - certain if he wants to feature at all when we are it to League 1 , he's far to pedestrian for that level at the moment , but he's still young and can improve there - he has talent for sure & I can see why parky rates him the next 18 months will be key for his career and he needs to be playing regularly - I suspect that won't be at Wrexham though