Training Regime and Tactics

[NottsRed]

Originally Posted by pagl

Hey Mbarnes. You cant have a reasoned debate on here or criticise anything to do with the club. You will get shot down by those that can see nothing wrong.

Tactically we are well behind a lot of teams. Hell we struggle to take throw ins and retain the ball from them. The naive kick off move still haunts our ability to play a possession game and we still suffer conceding from set pieces.

Cant possibly be the coaches as apparently they must know better than us as they get paid and have been with the WFA.

Its going to be an interesting game Saturday against a team that like to keep possession.
Lets see if players and management have the nous to play against it.

One thing I have picked up is the lack of movement we have at throw ins. Makes retaining possession that much more difficult.

[Huffy]

This forum reminds me of the first time you take your offspring for a driving lesson and they kangeroo the car back and forward , nearly putting your neck out ,with the violent changes in direction !!

[Alan Attack]

It’s like people moaning about corners and not beating the first man. “He’s paid x thousand a week and can’t cross a ball”. It’s utter rubbish.

Those corners which don’t clear the first man; the corner taker is trying to be percise. Perhaps too percise. He’s looking for a flick-on and then attack the second ball. However, if you don’t quite catch it right, you look a mug!

With throw-ins, I was always taught that the thrower needs 2 options. That was at Clwyd League and the Cubs league. Not much should have changed in that regard unless you’re chucking it up the line to gain a better position

[TomWFC]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

It’s like people moaning about corners and not beating the first man. “He’s paid x thousand a week and can’t cross a ball”. It’s utter rubbish.

Those corners which don’t clear the first man; the corner taker is trying to be percise. Perhaps too percise. He’s looking for a flick-on and then attack the second ball. However, if you don’t quite catch it right, you look a mug!

With throw-ins, I was always taught that the thrower needs 2 options. That was at Clwyd League and the Cubs league. Not much should have changed in that regard unless you’re chucking it up the line to gain a better position

With regards to your corner taking argument, it would also be fair to say that a lack of execution - trying to be precise or just lofting it in - is still (if it happens regularly) unacceptable and shows lack of technique.

[Alan Attack]

Originally Posted by TomWFC

With regards to your corner taking argument, it would also be fair to say that a lack of execution - trying to be precise or just lofting it in - is still (if it happens regularly) unacceptable and shows lack of technique.

Is it unacceptable? I’d say it’s entirely acceptable!

The problem is these blokes are 5th tier footballers and not robots or computer game players. But World class players can’t execute the basics all the time!

The unacceptability occurs if mistakes continually happen.

[EnglishRed]

Originally Posted by pagl

Hey Mbarnes. You cant have a reasoned debate on here or criticise anything to do with the club. You will get shot down by those that can see nothing wrong.

It's called a debate. Something you are keen to defend. I don't agree with personal jibes but people are entitled to hold a contrary view and it doesn't mean they just think nothing the team or club do is wrong. My own exasperation with this thread was that firstly I don't think it warranted its own topic outside of the Solihull reaction and it came on the back of three or four similar threads started just after the final whistle. It's just typical RP kneejerking.

Originally Posted by pagl

Tactically we are well behind a lot of teams. Hell we struggle to take throw ins and retain the ball from them. The naive kick off move still haunts our ability to play a possession game and we still suffer conceding from set pieces.

If we are so tactically bereft then why have we started so well. Luck? Prior to last weekend the team were getting praise for their tactical nous, Ricketts for his substitutions and the team for game management.

Throw ins are difficult in this league because almost all teams press very hard. As has been mentioned almost all teams outside of the Premier league kick off the same way. There are pros and cons to it but it usually puts us in a tactically strong position in the final third.

Originally Posted by pagl

Cant possibly be the coaches as apparently they must know better than us as they get paid and have been with the WFA.

Its going to be an interesting game Saturday against a team that like to keep possession.
Lets see if players and management have the nous to play against it.

If the coaches don't know better than the majority of fans on a fans forum I'd be really really worried.

[TomWFC]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

Is it unacceptable? I’d say it’s entirely acceptable!

The problem is these blokes are 5th tier footballers and robots or computer game players. But World class players can’t execute the basics all the time!

Notice how I said “if it happens regularly”. The occasional mis-execution of a corner is perfectly acceptable, because like you say they’re aiming for precision/hitting it flat with pace/curl etc. But consistently mis-hitting corners, not reaching the danger area and having no variation to me is unacceptable for a proffessional footballer.

[Alan Attack]

Originally Posted by TomWFC

Notice how I said “if it happens regularly”. The occasional mis-execution of a corner is perfectly acceptable, because like you say they’re aiming for precision/hitting it flat with pace/curl etc. But consistently mis-hitting corners, not reaching the danger area and having no variation to me is unacceptable for a proffessional footballer.

I amended my post!

[TomWFC]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

I amended my post!

Good amendment