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Old 11th March 2019, 13.30:55   #21-0 (permalink)
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I quite like 4-3-3 as a formation. It can keep you solid in midfield whilst still getting 3 players forward. But to work well you need the right players and we don't have those.

You need a goal threat from each of the front 3. At least two need to be strikers who can play out wide, rather than more traditional wingers - the sort of player you'd put upfront in a 4-4-2. Ideally they would also be the kind of players who can make goals out of nothing. And best of all, they would be able to interchange across the front 3 during the course of the game. Bit of pace doesn't hurt either.

Of our current players, arguably only Tollitt fits it at all (he is a goal threat and can make things happen on his own) and he isn't really a striker. Whereas in 2011/12, when we played the system best, Speight, Wright, Pogba and Morrell were all strikers who could play wide (the latter less so, but he could do a job).

So we have players upfront who seem more to be bodies to keep us solid, rather than make anything happen. Rutherford, for example, would seem likely to be more effective as a wide player in a 4-4-2. Grant doesn't fit in at all. Stockton and Oswell just seem like traditional strikers.
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I quite like 4-3-3 as a formation. It can keep you solid in midfield whilst still getting 3 players forward. But to work well you need the right players and we don't have those.

You need a goal threat from each of the front 3. At least two need to be strikers who can play out wide, rather than more traditional wingers - the sort of player you'd put upfront in a 4-4-2. Ideally they would also be the kind of players who can make goals out of nothing. And best of all, they would be able to interchange across the front 3 during the course of the game. Bit of pace doesn't hurt either.

Of our current players, arguably only Tollitt fits it at all (he is a goal threat and can make things happen on his own) and he isn't really a striker. Whereas in 2011/12, when we played the system best, Speight, Wright, Pogba and Morrell were all strikers who could play wide (the latter less so, but he could do a job).

So we have players upfront who seem more to be bodies to keep us solid, rather than make anything happen. Rutherford, for example, would seem likely to be more effective as a wide player in a 4-4-2. Grant doesn't fit in at all. Stockton and Oswell just seem like traditional strikers.
We need Dom Vose and Wes York back!!!!! Crazy to say but at the time they weren’t good enough but I gladly bring them back now to get us those extra goals.
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Brad Walker is now injured and will be out for 2-3 weeks. Carra and Summers are still not ready to return either.

Who plays in midfield tomorrow?

Could we bring Roberts back in at RB and play Kennedy as defensive mid?
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Brad Walker is now injured and will be out for 2-3 weeks. Carra and Summers are still not ready to return either.

Who plays in midfield tomorrow?

Could we bring Roberts back in at RB and play Kennedy as defensive mid?
That would be my option:

Tollitt and Wright wide; Kennedy and Young in the middle; Oswell and Stockton upfront.
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Roberts has got to play. For his weaknesses, he is, after all, a right back.
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Roberts if fit should play, we usually win games, only losing 3 with him starting with JL SP & JJ and not many have been draws.
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That would be my option:

Tollitt and Wright wide; Kennedy and Young in the middle; Oswell and Stockton upfront.

Wright wide,he found himslef in that postion a couple of times against Chesterfield and did not have a clue what to do.
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We need Dom Vose and Wes York back!!!!! Crazy to say but at the time they weren’t good enough but I gladly bring them back now to get us those extra goals.
Are you taking the piss?
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Are you taking the piss?
Would be better 433 forwards than Rutherford & Grant definitely.
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Would be better 433 forwards than Rutherford & Grant definitely.
Vose had 10 goals before Xmas and York regularly found the net.... Unfortunalty they fell short of the hard work ethic that gains RP approval of a forward. If you have a slightly stooped stance, and run around a lot, your in!
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