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Old 9th July 2020, 10.54:58   #190-0 (permalink)
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I personally do not know why members have resigned their positions. All I can add is you will have more chance inside, than outside, to make changes happen.
Well, considering that those in power have cultivated an 'us' and 'them' relationship with the fans I doubt it would be any different with new WST board members.

Unless of course those people are already of the same mindset.
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Don't you understand what this forum is for then? I have no desire to join an organisation like the WST who I believe is self defeating and flawed.
They're done as far as I'm concerned, their reputation is tarnished now I'm not sure there is any way back for them. Too many lies and cover ups.

So you think everyone who is unhappy should try to get elected onto the WST board? Now that's absurd.
We've already got people who aren't suitable and who are way out of their depth, we need to move away from that and not encourage everyone to stand regardless. Absolutely mental.

Maybe they recognise they aren't suitable, maybe they know they don't have the skills, maybe they just don't want to because they believe the model is flawed anyway. Lots of reasons. Can't believe this needs explaining.
We will have to agree to disagree. end of.
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We will have to agree to disagree. end of.
Brilliant.
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So you think everyone who is unhappy should try to get elected onto the WST board? Now that's absurd.
We've already got people who aren't suitable and who are way out of their depth, we need to move away from that and not encourage everyone to stand regardless. Absolutely mental.

Maybe they recognise they aren't suitable, maybe they know they don't have the skills, maybe they just don't want to because they believe the model is flawed anyway. Lots of reasons. Can't believe this needs explaining.
For me, this is key. The idea should be to get the best people on the board, not to yell at anyone who believes we need change "Well, get yourself elected then!"
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For me, this is key. The idea should be to get the best people on the board, not to yell at anyone who believes we need change "Well, get yourself elected then!"
Couldn't write it could y... oh wait someone did!
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ll those calling for people to stand for election if they want change should consider the extraordinary number of resignations from the WST Board this year.
I think people who have been elected and tried to bring about a modicum of change from within have found themselves to be banging their heads against a brick wall.
I can believe what you say. It must be difficult to press effective change. I predict there will be few members putting their names forward for election (I could be wrong). More likely to see names being nominated for vacancies.

To provide a change of direction it would need a group of like minded individuals who have organised themselves prior to the election. (Wonders if this has been done before )

Then they would need to gain a place on the WST board. and If successful, in sufficient numbers, they would then need to gain places on the Football board.

A long drawn out process with no guarantee of change.
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if there was a sudden influx of new members, the board and most importantly wst/board supporters would claim this was an endorsement to leave things as they are, the new members would not be able to vote on anything for ninety days which gives the board sufficient time to get even more of a forcefield around themselves
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Well yes it is..

I was referring to this:

that would be better off giving their time and energy to getting elected to make change happen.

This has been crushed time and time again. Its been done to death. And its absurd for many easy to find reasons. I'm not going to explain those all over again. But all I'll say is that if you're unhappy with Boris being PM, does that mean you should try and become PM yourself? No it does not. Its so simplistic and lacks even the most basic thought.

If you don't want Boris you look for an alternative that would do a better job , Sunak or Starmer possibly. This is where your anti board fanaticism falls down , you don't seem to be able to provide an alternative list of suitable candidates whether you would stand yourself or not.
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There’s no alternative so let’s all just let Harris and co destroy the club while everybody claps
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