Rory Smith - New York Times/Economic Times article

[Back of the Kop]

Originally Posted by Foxy

The OP raises a valid point. They are not in this for the long haul. and I do think that people are being taken in by their very slick PR. Their love of the Racecourse , town and club that was professed so emotionally during their visit, for me is a case of "me thinks they doth protest too much". We mustn't forget that they are top actors and most of what happens is documentary driven.

They are however an ideal fit for our current predicament, and I'm sure that at the root of their clever spin, they do have genuine affection for the club and big hopes for its future. When they decide to move on, they could leave us with very expensive players on long term contracts, but I hope that their managed withdrawal is more successful than the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. It certainly wouldn't suit their brand image to leave us in the lurch. An ideal long term transition would see them hand the club over to a syndicate of local and succesful interested parties, eg: Moneypenny, Ifor Williams, Wrexham lager, etc.

I suppose it depends what you deem long haul ?

Rob in particular is doing this because it was his dream to buy a football club. He isn't doing it for money. This is a passion. The more success he gets the more his appetite will grow to keep going. He's a young guy, if he sells us, what does he do to replace the "fix" ?

I see Rob in particular being here for the long haul and as I said previously I see other investors getting involved.

The Virgin Kop Stand anyone ?

[JH-94]

Originally Posted by Back of the Kop

I suppose it depends what you deem long haul ?

Rob in particular is doing this because it was his dream to buy a football club. He isn't doing it for money. This is a passion. The more success he gets the more his appetite will grow to keep going. He's a young guy, if he sells us, what does he do to replace the "fix" ?

I see Rob in particular being here for the long haul and as I said previously I see other investors getting involved.

The Virgin Kop Stand anyone ?

Could be apt if all the stone island crew stand in there

[Back of the Kop]

Originally Posted by Foxy

The local investors I have named are pretty big fish.

Will any of those companies be able to sustain a football club in the EFL Championship ? No chance. We would be back in League 2 before you knew it.

[Foxy]

Originally Posted by Back of the Kop

Will any of those companies be able to sustain a football club in the EFL Championship ? No chance. We would be back in League 2 before you knew it.

I don’t think championship football is sustainable for us. We should get into League 1 / 2 and stay there and perhaps appear higher up for a bit. But there is no way that we can sustain it; we are not big enough and we have to remember too the socio economic context - the town of Wrexham is in long term irreversible decline and this will limit the extent to which we can grow as a club. We are lucky, in that we can appeal on the basis of our Welsh status across North Wales (unlike other similar clubs) but there is also a limit to this as ultimately football fans in the region will increasingly gravitate to Liverpool and Manchester.

[renny]

Originally Posted by JH-94

Could be apt if all the stone island crew stand in there

[Back of the Kop]

Originally Posted by Foxy

I don’t think championship football is sustainable for us. We should get into League 1 / 2 and stay there and perhaps appear higher up for a bit. But there is no way that we can sustain it; we are not big enough and we have to remember too the socio economic context - the town of Wrexham is in long term irreversible decline and this will limit the extent to which we can grow as a club. We are lucky, in that we can appeal on the basis of our Welsh status across North Wales (unlike other similar clubs) but there is also a limit to this as ultimately football fans in the region will increasingly gravitate to Liverpool and Manchester.

That's rubbish. Countless examples of clubs punching well above their weight who were seen as no bigger than us a number of years ago.......Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford to name just a few.

Wrexham is pretty unique in that it's North Wales catchment area contains 900,000 potential customers with no other club in North Wales to compete with.

This club could definitely sustain Championship football and thrive with the right owners. You can't compare this with Fred Tomlinson and Gordon Mytton back in the the late 70's early 80's when mismanagement sent the club to successive relegations

This is on a different planet

[markd4321]

Originally Posted by Back of the Kop

That's rubbish. Countless examples of clubs punching well above their weight who were seen as no bigger than us a number of years ago.......Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford to name just a few.

Don't know about Burnley off hand but the other two received significant investment.

[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by Foxy

I don’t think championship football is sustainable for us. We should get into League 1 / 2 and stay there and perhaps appear higher up for a bit. But there is no way that we can sustain it; we are not big enough and we have to remember too the socio economic context - the town of Wrexham is in long term irreversible decline and this will limit the extent to which we can grow as a club. We are lucky, in that we can appeal on the basis of our Welsh status across North Wales (unlike other similar clubs) but there is also a limit to this as ultimately football fans in the region will increasingly gravitate to Liverpool and Manchester.

Umm!

Hope you haven’t applied to co-lead the City of Culture push with such an upbeat outlook.

Anything is possible under our current owners if we want it enough.

The most difficult bit is getting out of the NL.

[markd4321]

I worry more about R&R that not fully appreciating, though i'm sure they've since looked into it, that although fairy tales can and do happen, and the beauty of football is the triumph of the underdog. There does exist a very close correlation between money spent and on field performance, and that there is a sort of ceiling for a club like Wrexham.