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Old 11th March 2019, 09.55:38   #31-0 (permalink)
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Said it for a while now this club ruins any striker that comes here. All the evidence is there. We've had too many now for it to be put down to just poor recruitment.

Saying that, actually playing the ones you sign instead of the ones that aren't scoring might be a good place to start.
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Old 11th March 2019, 10.01:44   #32-0 (permalink)
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Only thing with this striker arguement, is how is the club ruining these strikers specifically? I mean its not even the same manager half the time.
Old 11th March 2019, 10.21:23   #33-0 (permalink)
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Only thing with this striker arguement, is how is the club ruining these strikers specifically? I mean its not even the same manager half the time.
Being on our 3rd manager of the season won't have helped.
Style of play.
I know he's untouchable and bombproof to many but isn't this issue something Darlington should have helped to address by now?
So coaching is on the list as well.

Even Boden who was average at best here and who I don't rate at all has got 15 this season. When he was here he didn't look like getting 15 goals in 5 seasons let alone one.

I refrain from putting any blame BH way as this isn't his squad. There'll be big changes in the summer promotion or not is my prediction.
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Old 11th March 2019, 11.25:17   #34-0 (permalink)
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I think a lot of the reason is down to tactics laid down by Darlington myself as he is the constant member of the coaching set up since we forgot how to rarely score more than one goal, he is a defensive minded coach & credit where it's due has made us very hard to score against but at a cost to being more adventurous going forward.

But having said that we have not had a half decent midfield since Keates Harris & Fowler.
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Old 11th March 2019, 11.54:38   #35-0 (permalink)
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I think a lot of the reason is down to tactics laid down by Darlington myself as he is the constant member of the coaching set up since we forgot how to rarely score more than one goal, he is a defensive minded coach & credit where it's due has made us very hard to score against but at a cost to being more adventurous going forward.

But having said that we have not had a half decent midfield since Keates Harris & Fowler.
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Don't get the criticism of Darlington.
The coaches, whoever they are, only follow the instructions of the manager.
It may be that Rickets and Barrow have set the basis for the way we are playing at present and BH is unlikely to change things with the players he has inherited.
I am however impressed with the way that Bryan has gone about his business and has up to now, silenced the critics.

I wholeheartedly agree with the comments about the midfield.

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Don't get the criticism of Darlington.
The coaches, whoever they are, only follow the instructions of the manager.
It may be that Rickets and Barrow have set the basis for the way we are playing at present and BH is unlikely to change things with the players he has inherited.
I am however impressed with the way that Bryan has gone about his business and has up to now, silenced the critics.

I wholeheartedly agree with the comments about the midfield.

I'm not criticising Darlington just trying to work out why since he rejoined under Keates we have forgot how to score under 3 managers, I praise Darlington for our strong defence but with us sitting deep even at home we are defending deep at a cost of being more adventurous in the final 3rd it's a bit Mourinho style parking the bus home and away, but as I said we have not had a decent midfield since Keates and Harris and the forwards are taking the flack because we create little going forward, I think we are badly missing Summerfield at the moment.
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Old 11th March 2019, 14.11:46   #37-0 (permalink)
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My impression is that Darlington is a modern coach with the ability to analyse performance using all the latest techniques and statistics. My guess is that is the reason Beavon always comes off around the hour as they are monitoring this stats with distance run etc. Maybe I'm wrong.

If this is Darlington's approach then it is very effective overall but my interest (its certainly not having a go) is that if this is his philisophy then does this mean we are less effective in other ways as we are not flexible, or willing to take risks when we are on the attack.

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It's not the same thing but someone did a great analysis of Tony Pulis teams and it showed how pretty much ever attacking move in Pulis teams involves a chipped in cross from about 20 yards out. The idea being that whilst it is statistically more effective for a winger to get to the byline and cut it back, if you cross from outside the box your defensive player is always in place if the defense wins the ball. It's a defensive-first style of attacking football.
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A modern game with a 433 should be based on pressing the opposition higher up the pitch.

Our tactics are based on fear of losing a point.
It has been dull, dull, dull all season except for two 45 spells against Salford and Ebbsfleet.

Lets hope BH improves this next season.
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Dont think Grant played as bad as people are making out, not great but got himself involved and didn't hide tbf to him,can't be doing with this need to have a scapegoat on here all the time bollox and apart from Tollit nobody looked a threat or had a particularly great game.
the thing with Grant is he has dropped down from L1, and was expected to give us the big boost impact, we needed,the 5game loss he played in them the next loss we have hes played pretty much all the game,he offers nothing, he should be starring in these games, maybe its the system we play? but not even glimpses of quality, looks like his legs have gone and he cant hack it,hope hes not involved tues, give Holroyd a go ffs
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Said it for a while now this club ruins any striker that comes here. All the evidence is there. We've had too many now for it to be put down to just poor recruitment.

Saying that, actually playing the ones you sign instead of the ones that aren't scoring might be a good place to start.
Our style of play is the reasons strikers struggle. We could have Shearer in his prime up there and it would make no difference.

Saturday specifically, 2 of our 3 main midfield men were out. Summerfield is a massive loss. sooner he is back the better.
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