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Old 9th May 2019, 15.02:01   #51-0 (permalink)
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What stood out for me in the article was the following:

“What was extraordinarily was for Barrow to be wheeled out for a “Meet the Manager” event after he had already told the board that he wanted to step down”.

So the fans gathered to listen to Barrow’s vision for the future when everybody on the top table knew he was going to piss off as soon as he could.

To me that’s worse than the Manny Smith non announcement.

They shouldn’t have bothered with the event and waited for the new manager to be appointed. They were basically conning everybody who was there and no doubt some had travelled a fair distance to be there.
Shows a fair amount of distain for the 'plebs' doesn't it?
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Old 9th May 2019, 15.17:31   #52-0 (permalink)
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What stood out for me in the article was the following:

“What was extraordinarily was for Barrow to be wheeled out for a “Meet the Manager” event after he had already told the board that he wanted to step down”.

So the fans gathered to listen to Barrow’s vision for the future when everybody on the top table knew he was going to piss off as soon as he could.

To me that’s worse than the Manny Smith non announcement.

They shouldn’t have bothered with the event and waited for the new manager to be appointed. They were basically conning everybody who was there and no doubt some had travelled a fair distance to be there.
Well according to Rory Sheehan (whoever he is) your having a go at the wrong people - he doesnt actually say who the right people are so seems very misinformed.

The meeting shows yet another poor judgement call and IMO another instance of Barrow being coerced to hide the truth. The whole January fiasco is the fault of the football board and has damaged reputations.
Lost all credibility in my eyes and will affect my attendance.
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Old 9th May 2019, 15.29:53   #53-0 (permalink)
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With Pearson, Lawler and Smith now contracted and offers out to Kennedy and Tharme it would suggest to me that one of the currently contracted players is off or they're not expecting Tharme, Kennedy or both to sign.

Perhaps keeping the Smith contract quiet somehow relates to departures, i.e. Pearson.
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Old 9th May 2019, 16.06:43   #55-0 (permalink)
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Well according to Rory Sheehan (whoever he is) your having a go at the wrong people - he doesnt actually say who the right people are so seems very misinformed.

The meeting shows yet another poor judgement call and IMO another instance of Barrow being coerced to hide the truth. The whole January fiasco is the fault of the football board and has damaged reputations.
Lost all credibility in my eyes and will affect my attendance.
I don’t go to matches as much as I used to anyway. I’ve been disillusioned with all the shenanigans going on in secret for a while now.

The best way that I can show my disdain for what’s going on is to cancel my WST membership which I will probably do. There are far worthier causes out there to help than the WST.
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Old 9th May 2019, 16.15:32   #56-0 (permalink)
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Well according to Rory Sheehan (whoever he is) your having a go at the wrong people - he doesnt actually say who the right people are so seems very misinformed.

The meeting shows yet another poor judgement call and IMO another instance of Barrow being coerced to hide the truth. The whole January fiasco is the fault of the football board and has damaged reputations.
Lost all credibility in my eyes and will affect my attendance.
That would be me. Long-term fan, season-ticket holder, WST member, long-term but lapsed poster on RP etc. I'd argue I'm fairly well informed. Fezbob and Rob can vouch for me.

If people read the piece they'll see I'm not saying the board are perfect, and certainly made clear they are not above criticism - just that some of the flak one of two board members have taken on social media has seemed to stray over the line a bit this season. That's just my opinion. Some may argue it comes with the territory. That's their opinion.

Don't think anyone should really be a target for heavy mass criticism.
We have no divine right to get promoted but we should expect to be challenging and we were from early on, and the board would have been planning to start and finish the season with Sam Ricketts in charge.
But they had to react as soon as he even entertained the idea of going to Shrewsbury and destabilised things. I don't agree with the decisions they made thereafter, but whatever they chose to do from that point would not have guaranteed us promotion.
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Old 9th May 2019, 16.30:10   #57-0 (permalink)
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That would be me. Long-term fan, season-ticket holder, WST member, long-term but lapsed poster on RP etc. I'd argue I'm fairly well informed. Fezbob and Rob can vouch for me.

If people read the piece they'll see I'm not saying the board are perfect, and certainly made clear they are not above criticism - just that some of the flak one of two board members have taken on social media has seemed to stray over the line a bit this season. That's just my opinion. Some may argue it comes with the territory. That's their opinion.

Don't think anyone should really be a target for heavy mass criticism.
We have no divine right to get promoted but we should expect to be challenging and we were from early on, and the board would have been planning to start and finish the season with Sam Ricketts in charge.
But they had to react as soon as he even entertained the idea of going to Shrewsbury and destabilised things. I don't agree with the decisions they made thereafter, but whatever they chose to do from that point would not have guaranteed us promotion.
So basically what you are saying is no one is accountable at the club and its just all bad luck. Please.

Who has ever stated we have a divine right to be promoted?

The lack of criticism you and your colleague's are too scared to aim in the direction of the club is damning.
If you didn't agree with the decisions they made after why haven't you said so to provide some sort of balanced view. Its a totally biased and unbalanced piece and zooming in on a few crackpots who abuse people on social media is side stepping the real issues.

I urge you to write an article that looks at this season and asks some tough questions of the board with regards to their decision making.
Even during our dark days this paper was shameful in its actions.
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Old 9th May 2019, 16.41:22   #58-0 (permalink)
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That would be me. Long-term fan, season-ticket holder, WST member, long-term but lapsed poster on RP etc. I'd argue I'm fairly well informed. Fezbob and Rob can vouch for me.

If people read the piece they'll see I'm not saying the board are perfect, and certainly made clear they are not above criticism - just that some of the flak one of two board members have taken on social media has seemed to stray over the line a bit this season. That's just my opinion. Some may argue it comes with the territory. That's their opinion.

Don't think anyone should really be a target for heavy mass criticism.
We have no divine right to get promoted but we should expect to be challenging and we were from early on, and the board would have been planning to start and finish the season with Sam Ricketts in charge.
But they had to react as soon as he even entertained the idea of going to Shrewsbury and destabilised things. I don't agree with the decisions they made thereafter, but whatever they chose to do from that point would not have guaranteed us promotion.
All your article seems to say is that personal abuse on social media is wrong. No review of the board's Decision making. Nor do you say who the right people fans should be directing their anger at. You also don’t state anywhere that it’s a minority of fans giving directors personal abuse.

As you say though, it’s just your opinion.
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So basically what you are saying is no one is accountable at the club and its just all bad luck. Please.

Who has ever stated we have a divine right to be promoted?

The lack of criticism you and your colleague's are too scared to aim in the direction of the club is damning.
If you didn't agree with the decisions they made after why haven't you said so to provide some sort of balanced view. Its a totally biased and unbalanced piece and zooming in on a few crackpots who abuse people on social media is side stepping the real issues.

I urge you to write an article that looks at this season and asks some tough questions of the board with regards to their decision making.
Even during our dark days this paper was shameful in its actions.
Can't be too harsh, they've bill's to pay like we all do. Club board decide you're over critical stirring up trouble - doesn't take much to upset them -, they ban you from the club.

Some other brown noser will step in right away, it's not right but that's how it's done, more so at Wrexham.
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That would be me. Long-term fan, season-ticket holder, WST member, long-term but lapsed poster on RP etc. I'd argue I'm fairly well informed. Fezbob and Rob can vouch for me.

If people read the piece they'll see I'm not saying the board are perfect, and certainly made clear they are not above criticism - just that some of the flak one of two board members have taken on social media has seemed to stray over the line a bit this season. That's just my opinion. Some may argue it comes with the territory. That's their opinion.

Don't think anyone should really be a target for heavy mass criticism.
We have no divine right to get promoted but we should expect to be challenging and we were from early on, and the board would have been planning to start and finish the season with Sam Ricketts in charge.
But they had to react as soon as he even entertained the idea of going to Shrewsbury and destabilised things. I don't agree with the decisions they made thereafter, but whatever they chose to do from that point would not have guaranteed us promotion.
Criticism is fine.... board members after some shocking decisions and a clear lack of transparency, they should expect to receive it. It does need to be put in a constructive way.

Personal insults and abuse is unacceptable.

The Barrow saga and now the Manny Smith contract timing have not been given any reasoning from the the football club board, to the owners of the club. It does make you wonder what else is being held back from the minions that pay on the gate.

I’m at a loss trying to understand some very strange decisions over the last few years. So much so that I intend to go and watch premier league football next season. I really do feel despondent about Wrexham both on and off the field.

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